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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GM in a Ford
I should clarify I don't park it like this normally. Only had it there to wash it and then moved it back to the extra parking area.

I love the house and the neighborhood but I have outgrown the yard and garage. Moving may be on my list of things to do and will definitely be if I get a complaint.
From what I hear you saying, it sounds like you are gtg for now. You have a parking spot that others have used without complaint.

It's funny how the cost of these trucks and affordability of certain engines and options gets brought up all the time, but then when it comes to a home, no problem, just move lol. I don't know your location or financial situation(don't need to), but around here to get into a place with a larger garage and more space, is going to start at $700k. Honestly that might not even be a realistic number right now. Not always easy to just get up and move, on the contrary that could be difficult for many reasons.

I don't think you are going to have a problem, so this isn't something you'll need to consider. RV's, boats and the like aren't allowed to be parked on the city streets here, and not many properties in this immediate area have RV parking, so some use storage facilities. They aren't cheap, and the only way I would use one for a truck would be if the truck was making me a lot of $$ and I had no other choice.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 04:14 PM
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HOA's are nothing more than miserable tyrants looking for power. They should not exist.
People who don't like HOAs should not purchase houses in developments governed by them. You have to read and understand the rules before you decide to buy. If your life situation changes that doesn't mean the covenants protecting the look of the community and everyone's property values should be suspended. As far as being "tyrants" they do not have unlimited power. If you work within the rules you should not witness any abuse of "power". If you attend the HOA meetings you can voice complaints and challenge decisions. Most people who complain about them never read the Recorded Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions (CC&Rs) and they usually do not attend the HOA meetings. They just complain about enforcement of the rules they agreed to and enforcement of those rules by people who hold the meetings they never attend. Welcome to 'Murica !!!

For those of us who like to live in nice surroundings and do not want to have our property values diminished by people who have no respect for their neighbors, HOAs are a valuable resource. They help keep the neighborhood looking clean and nice and help to protect the property values. My neighborhood is governed by a very short, no amenities HOA covenant but it is written to protect the homeowners from property depreciation by not allowing mobile homes, abandoned vehicles in your yard, ridiculous paint schemes, etc. I very much appreciate it because selling my home and downsizing is an important part of my overall retirement strategy - the HOA CC&Rs are protecting my investment very effectively.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by B-ManFX4
People who don't like HOAs should not purchase houses in developments governed by them. You have to read and understand the rules before you decide to buy. If your life situation changes that doesn't mean the covenants protecting the look of the community and everyone's property values should be suspended. As far as being "tyrants" they do not have unlimited power. If you work within the rules you should not witness any abuse of "power". If you attend the HOA meetings you can voice complaints and challenge decisions. Most people who complain about them never read the Recorded Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions (CC&Rs) and they usually do not attend the HOA meetings. They just complain about enforcement of the rules they agreed to and enforcement of those rules by people who hold the meetings they never attend. Welcome to 'Murica !!!

For those of us who like to live in nice surroundings and do not want to have our property values diminished by people who have no respect for their neighbors, HOAs are a valuable resource. They help keep the neighborhood looking clean and nice and help to protect the property values. My neighborhood is governed by a very short, no amenities HOA covenant but it is written to protect the homeowners from property depreciation by not allowing mobile homes, abandoned vehicles in your yard, ridiculous paint schemes, etc. I very much appreciate it because selling my home and downsizing is an important part of my overall retirement strategy - the HOA CC&Rs are protecting my investment very effectively.
Congratulations, it seems like you almost have yourself convinced you made the right decision. As for me, I choose freedom👍🏻
 

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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by B-ManFX4
People who don't like HOAs should not purchase houses in developments governed by them. You have to read and understand the rules before you decide to buy. If your life situation changes that doesn't mean the covenants protecting the look of the community and everyone's property values should be suspended. As far as being "tyrants" they do not have unlimited power. If you work within the rules you should not witness any abuse of "power". If you attend the HOA meetings you can voice complaints and challenge decisions. Most people who complain about them never read the Recorded Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions (CC&Rs) and they usually do not attend the HOA meetings. They just complain about enforcement of the rules they agreed to and enforcement of those rules by people who hold the meetings they never attend. Welcome to 'Murica !!!

For those of us who like to live in nice surroundings and do not want to have our property values diminished by people who have no respect for their neighbors, HOAs are a valuable resource. They help keep the neighborhood looking clean and nice and help to protect the property values. My neighborhood is governed by a very short, no amenities HOA covenant but it is written to protect the homeowners from property depreciation by not allowing mobile homes, abandoned vehicles in your yard, ridiculous paint schemes, etc. I very much appreciate it because selling my home and downsizing is an important part of my overall retirement strategy - the HOA CC&Rs are protecting my investment very effectively.
As a Real Estate Agent, ^^^THIS^^^ is the truth. HOA's are for some and not for others. They vary in degree's of restrictiveness and enforcement. We have properties from no covenants, just county regs up to some incredibly restrictive and heavily enforced HOA's with everything in between. Definitely on the the home buyer to know what you are getting into. I don't think the OP has any issue with his HOA at this time.

With regards to just moving. You might be surprised how simple it actually can be with super low rates and record appreciation in many places. Most people do not realize their options. The biggest challenge for me is lack of inventory and of course affordability as mentioned. In my county the median home on the market lists for $1.25 million. My home has more than doubled in value in the last 5 years but my wife wont let me sell it, and I am not sure where we would go (but we would have a pile of money to do so). I am in a lightly restricted HOA, never been hassled, keeps the riff raff out, I like it.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by B-ManFX4
People who don't like HOAs should not purchase houses in developments governed by them. You have to read and understand the rules before you decide to buy. If your life situation changes that doesn't mean the covenants protecting the look of the community and everyone's property values should be suspended. As far as being "tyrants" they do not have unlimited power. If you work within the rules you should not witness any abuse of "power". If you attend the HOA meetings you can voice complaints and challenge decisions. Most people who complain about them never read the Recorded Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions (CC&Rs) and they usually do not attend the HOA meetings. They just complain about enforcement of the rules they agreed to and enforcement of those rules by people who hold the meetings they never attend. Welcome to 'Murica !!!

For those of us who like to live in nice surroundings and do not want to have our property values diminished by people who have no respect for their neighbors, HOAs are a valuable resource. They help keep the neighborhood looking clean and nice and help to protect the property values. My neighborhood is governed by a very short, no amenities HOA covenant but it is written to protect the homeowners from property depreciation by not allowing mobile homes, abandoned vehicles in your yard, ridiculous paint schemes, etc. I very much appreciate it because selling my home and downsizing is an important part of my overall retirement strategy - the HOA CC&Rs are protecting my investment very effectively.
Spot on! As I said earlier in the thread, I was on the board of an HOA. Rarely did anyone show up at the public meetings (they were all public).
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
Congratulations, it seems like you almost have yourself convinced you made the right decision. I guess it's the same reason people vote for the donkeys, because they need more laws and regulations so they can sleep cozy at night. As for me, I choose freedom👍🏻
Nope, I didn't have to convince myself of anything. Like was stated, I READ the covenant and then decided to purchase the home because I liked the protections that it afforded me for living and my investment. There aren't any community amenities so the covenant is short and to the point. Keep your yard maintained, no vehicles parked in the yard in disrepair, any sheds or additions have to match the house construction and color scheme. My $25 per month fee covers keeping the streetlights on and mowing of the road shoulders, snow plowing, etc. The nice thing is all of the neighbors (there are only 10 houses in this "neighborhood" - a single dead-end street almost 1/2 mile long) understand the value of property maintenance so I have yet to hear of anyone being contacted by the HOA for a violation.

We have laws for many things in our lives and for the most part the only reason they are necessary is because there are so many people who think only of themselves. Having the ability to enforce keeping the neighborhood clean and neat and watch my property value appreciate is rooted in EXPERIENCE. One low-life can start a cancer in a neighborhood that literally destroys your home's potential value and marketability. That's not freedom, that's selfishness. I too choose freedom - the freedom of not having to watch a 1987 Camaro sit on blocks, rusting away in someone's yard, or someone painting the red bricks in a home black in a checkerboard pattern - and then painting the trim an electric blue, someone not mowing their yard for MONTHS at a time, etc. That is the cancer that caused me, and many others, to move from a nice neighborhood years ago. In the 11 years I have lived here my home has almost tripled in value, while my old home mentioned earlier has appreciated in value by only 20% in that same time frame. Why do you suppose that is the case? The sad thing is there are some really decent folks who are trapped in that decaying neighborhood because they cannot afford to move. Why can't they move? Because their houses have barely appreciated while the neighborhoods they would like to move to have appreciated greatly, preventing them from selling for a good profit and then "upgrading".

Allowing someone else to trainwreck your property values by them being a slob, lazy, exercising poor taste, etc. isn't my idea of freedom - it's more like freedumb. BTW - the only "Donkeys" I vote for are the ones deployed in the pastures to protect the calves from coyotes. 👍🏻

Originally Posted by GM in a Ford
I live in a neighborhood of smallish homes and small lots. I have a 21' truck and a 16' driveway. The garage isn't any longer and it won't clear the door even if it was. Fortunately the neighborhood has extra parking in back of my house directly behind where my truck sits in this picture. Technically the HOA covenants say we aren't supposed to use it but so far nobody complains and there are people using the extra parking in the other part of my neighborhood too.
As for the OP's original question, I do see a problem. Personally I wouldn't want my truck out in the lane of travel like that. In the days of people who spend more time looking at their phone screen than through their windshield, it's only a matter of time until someone runs into your truck. The idea of permeable pavers suggested by Joe T seems like a reasonable workaround that probably wouldn't raise complaints from others. Good luck !!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 08:19 PM
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I would move. But that's easier said than done.

When I was on the board of an HOA, there was a situation that came up where the HOA decided to enforce a rule that had been on the books since inception, but never enforced. It turned out that because of the lack of enforcement, the rule was unenforceable. This was in south Texas. Maybe it was a Texas thing.
in texas if a HOA POA restriction or rule is left UN ENFORCED for 4 years and one day..its no longer considered as binding
we have court precedent on it .
i had two terms as a director...cept i worked for the people vice the lookie looos that tried to play communist
now we have them again and i take great pride is shutting them down.
we can still have nice places...

but if this was my yard...pavers on the grass and park the truck
or get a permit to extend the driveway and pour a slab.



 
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