The Barn Find Hunter is right, many desirable cars are hidden waiting to be discovered.......

 

Right behind the 12ga. in this case, I expect.

 

OK, here's how lame I am about electronics: I go check out this generator to see if that tech has even looked at it. He hadn't. The batteries I brought were still there disconnected. So, I'm going to install them and read the starting instructions and see if I can fire it up. The auction is Tuesday, tomorrow's the last day to take it up there - not even sure if they'll take it then.

It's got two batteries side by side, all covered in dirt. I unhook the first, pick it up and set it on the ground, but didn't think to look at the polarities, figured the cables will tell me.

But, when I look at them, they're not like our trucks. There isn't a positive cable that runs from the first battery to the second, and ditto for the negative. Instead, there's one cable that runs between the two batteries and two other cables, one from each battery running into the engine compartment in different directions. I can trace one to a master cutoff switch that then goes to the starter. So, I assume the other is a ground - it disappears under the engine like a ground would do.

But, does that mean that the cable connecting the two batteries runs from a positive to a negative terminal? Or, is it connecting the two negatives and that disappearing ground cable is coming off a positive terminal? I think it's the former, from what I can remember taking the battery out. Which prolly explains why the cable terminals aren't fitting on the battery correctly - one too loose, the other too tight.

See, that's pretty ignorant. I should have just gone with it, but I didn't want to short out stuff. I can Bonehead my own trucks, but I try not to do it to others. So, is that right, can you connect batteries by different terminals? I suppose so and that's why flashlight batteries always face the opposite way. So, why don't our trucks do that?

 

You better check, most military surplus is 24v not 12v.

 

Well, heck, I hadn't even thought of that. I guess it'll say on the old batteries. Do 24v systems hook up in a circle like that?

 

For 24v it's just connecting them in series. Make sure it's 24v, check the starter. Most of these had a Delco Remy starter.

 

Yep, that's it. Thanks so much. The noob learns something new today. Watched a vid as well, and now understand the difference between two 12v in parallel producing 12v and two 12v in series producing 24v. Good news is that I prolly wouldn't have burned anything up connecting 12v to this 24v system, I think.

So, I go back over, hook everything up, and it cranks great, but never starts. I unloosened the fuel line at what looks like a fuel regulator maybe - the first place the line stopped, and I didn't even have to take the line off before fuel came seeping out. So, it has fuel. I figure it needs to be primed or pumped up like my tractor. And I see something that looks like a small pump, but it has a retainer clip over it and I'm not sure I should take that off. I'll ask the tech next door.

But, yeah, I'd say this babee is going to fire up. Just cranking it, it sounds noisy as heck. I'll add a pic from my phone.



I didn't get a good pic of that pump-looking device. It's on the lower left, right above the red drain bucket. I'm calling that part above it the fuel regulator because the fuel comes into it from the tank (under/back right) and comes out on the left passing through the pump-like mechanism. The angle is right from the top, it just looks like a round circle, but from the side, it looks like a push pump. I think the retaining clip comes off and that round head pops up to pump with. Does that sound right? The fuel leaves from there and goes through a big fuel filter?, then to the Fuel Injector Pump. That also has an On/Off switch.

 

Hard to tell/guess but, lower left, fuel pump, filter, injection pump.........not sure if you have a hand primer but should. Injection pump ON/OFF is just a mechanical gate to stop flow. Bleed the air out of the system, hit it with Ether.......

 

The on/off is the red level on the injection pump. Place it in the vertical position to run.

 

Yes, yes, yes. Exactly. I think that round part on the left is the primer, just a bad angle. I know there are different types. The one on my tractor screwed shut. I think this one has a retainer clip/wire holding that pump down. I'll try it tomorrow. Thx.

 

Any luck with it?

 

Well, that is the primer pump. The clip swivels off. I couldn't get it to budge though by hand and had to use some pliers to leverage it up. Then, it broke loose and acted fine. Thought it wasn't working at first, like it was wore out. But kept pumping and it finally built up pressure. Still wouldn't start though. I did have the injector pump lever in the Open/On position.

So, I took off the fuel line at the injector pump - the high point in the fuel line, and fuel came out of it without cranking the engine. Put it back on and loosened one of the lines at an injector and cranked the engine and pumped the primer over and over. Never got any fuel to come out. Finally, took the fuel line back off at the pump, where fuel had come out before just from gravity. Now, I cranked the engine, expecting it to flow full force from the line, but is more like a steady trickle.

So, I'm guessing I have a fuel problem. Went next door and asked the tech, and he wasn't quite as enthusiastic about helping as before. No advice.

Questions: what is the device that first receives fuel from the tank? Lower left of the pic. Right next to the primer pump. Fuel line comes in, the to primer pump, then to big round thing I assume is a filter, then to the injector pump. Is it a pump too? Is it possible to bypass all that and feed fuel directly to the injector pump only for the purposes of getting it to start?

Disclaimer: I don't know that the fuel is good, or how much is even in the tank. Just a little hesitant to start taking stuff apart since it's not mine.

 

Run a stick in the tank to see if you have fuel

 

You have a brass pre filter/water trap and a primary filter. Where is the fuel pump at on the engine?