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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 10:46 AM
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Okay so what you have there is a combination of years and parts. The most valuable is the Chinese generator head. They are known as ST generator heads. There used to be a big importer of them with a huge following. They are still made and work well. The engine is old army surplus.
Thanks! Any idea what theyre worth? If the old army surplus still works with 95 actual hours, would it be valuable? All in all, is the entirety too old of technology, even though mfg in 2007-8, to be of use today to most people? Anyone who bought it would prolly just rip the ST head out and toss the rest?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 11:05 AM
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I see the generator head for sale new for about $900. Then, I see small 15,000w diesel generators for sale new around $2,300, but those would fit in the back seat of a truck, look like the small portables every construction worker has. What's the advantage of the big honking Continental engine and ST head over those units? If there's none, then this thing has almost no value. Why tow it around and use the extra diesel fuel when the small units put out the same KW? A 15kw natural gas powered Generac is only $2500 or so.

Heck, the trailer might be the most valuable component? Tear all that enclosure and generator off, clean it up and paint it. Has a heavy axle, Prolly get $700-$800 for the cleaned up trailer?

Sorry, I know Jack about these machines, but I know Jack knew. Gotta think there's something there worth a few dollars - knowing Jack.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by IHateCommieCars
Thanks! Any idea what theyre worth? If the old army surplus still works with 95 actual hours, would it be valuable? All in all, is the entirety too old of technology, even though mfg in 2007-8, to be of use today to most people? Anyone who bought it would prolly just rip the ST head out and toss the rest?
I think there is great value there to the right person. I think what the above means by hands on is these are not start it and forget units. If you have to bring on a large inductive load you must do it carefully or you will lose voltage and hurt other electronics. The same goes for shedding large loads. The voltage can spike or dip, these units are not clean power and should not be used for sensitive loads. With that said it will run for thousands of hours without issues. Current market for that setup would be about 2-3k. Don't compare it to new units, your not going to buy any new low rpm diesel generator for under 30k these days. The direct drive 2 pole 3600rpm generators are pure junk. This setup should have the continental running at 1200rpm and the sheaves running the head at 1800rpm. This will run 24/7 forong durations. It would have been far more awesome if the original 6 pole head was there, that thing would have been massive.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 01:03 PM
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Cool, that's the value I told her off the top of my head. And I expect the RB Auction crowd, with hundreds of gensets for sale, know its value. If I can get it started to show the RB guys, we can both get an unexpected payday.

But, it's not enough value to make it worth transporting to any of the FTE crowd around the country. I could go look over the trailer, and see if it really has any value. If so, all the rest, for the most part, is attached to the skid and would easily unload off the trailer at RB. I expect the unit would bring the same value without the trailer?

But, I doubt the trailer is worth enough to make that worthwhile. Prolly just pump up the tires, take the vid of it running, and drop it at RB.

May not make it by the auction date though. that's only 4 business day away. May put it on Ebay until the FW auction next month.

thanks for the help.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 01:07 PM
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another question - what are the applications for a hands-on unit like this, since the power isn't clean. I expect that means it's really not the best tech for running one's house with computers and other low-power chips. What kind of motors work easily with this dirty electricity?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 01:19 PM
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Someone at a Ritchie Bros. auction will want that.

Labels. Good God man, all my background images show labels. And if it's a cardboard box, it's got writing on it. Removed parts are in bags, labeled. Even my sockets are labeled so I can see it easier. Wrenches, too. If you want to get me something for Christmas, it's Brother P-Tough labels.












 
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 01:38 PM
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ROFLMAO i used to sell labels. You weren't in my territory or I'd have known about you. Yeah, RB is the perfect place to sell that. Probably get shipped to Africa and run a water pump in Chad for the next 20 years.
 
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another question - what are the applications for a hands-on unit like this, since the power isn't clean. I expect that means it's really not the best tech for running one's house with computers and other low-power chips. What kind of motors work easily with this dirty electricity?
No it's not the best for sensitive equipment but neither are most non inverter generators and people get away with that. Someone at RB will see the value. Getting it started should be very simple.
 
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I'm going to go mess with this tomorrow. Try to get it started and over to RB for the auction.
 
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Hour meter is just that, he put one on it, is it relevant, nope. What I mean about Hands On, don't walk away from it while adding loads unless you are prepared to buy new appliances or whatever you are trying to power because it does not automatically adjust to loads. You can smoke newer items because they have more electronics that do not like surges or low voltage. I knew the head, just couldn't remember and as pointed out UtterPower should have plenty of information on the ST head unit.

Continental and Wisconsin are old power engines used in everything like Honda is today. In a nutshell, it is a cobbled up mess that works, we old guys understand it....... If you don't understand what you have in front of you, it could get expensive
 
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What are you hiding Jack........ Something Mustangish?

 
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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 08:29 AM
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That's my red '66 GT-350. The white one is hidden. So is the 289hipo to the left of that image fully dressed in '65 Shelby parts. A 30-mile engine, 1/2 miles at a time.

Both cars need to be restored; I'm 15 years behind that plan. '66 wheels on the wall, extra parts of the shelves, and you missed the quarter panels hanging from the ceiling in image 2. Also, quarter panels behind that little door under the wheels.

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Old Jun 10, 2021 | 11:40 AM
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Well, hell, who needs Pornhub if Jack will just keep posting car pics. I had a '68 fastback. Did what HS kids did at the time - 4bbl, hi-rise, dual point, headers. But I swapped in a solid lifter cam and that was my undoing. Just too much PITA to keep adjusted - for me. And a mess, with the valve covers off and the engine running. Otherwise cherry interior with the ceiling console. Sold it around '77 for $400.

My best friend at the same time had a '67 fastback, but hadn't souped it as much, although you couldn't tell the way he drove it. I was working after school at a transmission shop and the owner had a sleeper '65 or '66 HiPo convertible. All stock with 70s underneath. Fooled a lot of people if you didn't see and know what the little emblem on the front fender meant.

On the day we graduated HS, from the biggest HS in the state that year, my bud and I did synchronized donuts in the school front grass in our matching Stangs with the Principle yelling from the front steps.
 
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A discussion of a generator to labels gets so out of hand.
 
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Prolly should have put this in the off-topic thread. Didn't think of that, but was trying to get someone a deal quickly, if it was a deal. Just a little fun. Nice cars. When I win the lottery, will you sell one? I assume you got some kids that can finish the restores? You're looking like me with more projects than we can chew. But you have nicer projects, and I got dentures.
 
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