Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Cold start issue or being paranoid

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 13, 2021 | 06:33 AM
  #1  
fordtruckrodder's Avatar
fordtruckrodder
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 332
Likes: 42
Cold start issue or being paranoid

For the last 2 mornings the truck would crank right up run for a few seconds then miss and kill. After the stall I turned the key off and back on the truck started right up and ran fine, drove 130 miles round trip no issues. Between trips the truck sat for 8 hours and started right up. It seems like the last few days the truck needed a little more throttle to maintain speed going up a steep bridge I cross daily, but other than that been running like a champ. I have 380k on the original CAC tubes and a small exhaust leak so figured this may be what was causing a little loss of power. I will order the CAC tubes and install new exhaust gaskets this weekend.

Is the starting / stall something worth worrying over? The truck has never done this before.
 
Reply
Old May 13, 2021 | 02:24 PM
  #2  
xcrsp440's Avatar
xcrsp440
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 94
Do you have any monitoring tools? Forscan is good, check for codes, misfires, out of spec outputs etc
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2021 | 07:43 PM
  #3  
fordtruckrodder's Avatar
fordtruckrodder
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 332
Likes: 42
The only monitoring tool I have is a scanguage. I was reading about the forscan and think I will get that order the bluetooth receiver.

I did look at the ICP readings it they seemed to be normal. I cranked it today for the first time since Thursday and it did the same except this time it took 3 tries before it would stay running. Once running it was smooth and didn't seem to have any misfires.
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2021 | 07:48 AM
  #4  
Bitterroot Diesel's Avatar
Bitterroot Diesel
Former Vendor
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,597
Likes: 695
From: Florence, MT
Probably injectors. How many miles on them? You could try some sticktion eliminator https://bitterrootdiesel.com/product...erstrokes-16oz
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2021 | 08:29 AM
  #5  
fordtruckrodder's Avatar
fordtruckrodder
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 332
Likes: 42
I changed the injectors a little over 100k miles ago.
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2021 | 08:36 AM
  #6  
Bitterroot Diesel's Avatar
Bitterroot Diesel
Former Vendor
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,597
Likes: 695
From: Florence, MT
100k on injectors, could be time to replace.
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2021 | 08:45 AM
  #7  
fordtruckrodder's Avatar
fordtruckrodder
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 332
Likes: 42
The original injectors were changed at about 275k with motorcraft units. I will get try to get a tool to scan for codes.
 
Reply
Old May 16, 2021 | 08:48 AM
  #8  
Bitterroot Diesel's Avatar
Bitterroot Diesel
Former Vendor
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,597
Likes: 695
From: Florence, MT
Impressive mileage on the original injectors!
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old May 17, 2021 | 06:34 AM
  #9  
fordtruckrodder's Avatar
fordtruckrodder
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 332
Likes: 42
This morning I turned the key until the glow plug light went off and repeated again then tried to start the truck, it started and had no miss at all and didn't kill. Could it be glow plugs and Is there a way to test the glow plugs?
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2021 | 07:08 AM
  #10  
Bitterroot Diesel's Avatar
Bitterroot Diesel
Former Vendor
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 2,597
Likes: 695
From: Florence, MT
Bad glow plugs will throw a CEL.
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2021 | 07:47 AM
  #11  
xcrsp440's Avatar
xcrsp440
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 94
Diesel tech Ron has a video on glow plugs and how to test them. Pretty easily done. But when you get a scan tool if you have issues with glow plugs they usually will store a code you can read.
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2021 | 07:58 AM
  #12  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,900
Likes: 3,617
Club FTE Gold Member
IIRC - throwing a CEL will depend on what year and what "calibration", eg - CARB compliant or not. A CEL isn't a certainty I don't think.
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2021 | 08:23 AM
  #13  
fordtruckrodder's Avatar
fordtruckrodder
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 332
Likes: 42
Would it be possible for the fuel to drain from the upper fuel filter after sitting for a while? Is there some sort of check valve to prevent the fuel from draining from the upper filter when not under pressure?
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2021 | 09:05 AM
  #14  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,900
Likes: 3,617
Club FTE Gold Member
A 2004 "running year change" was discussed in the 2005 Coffee Table Book (not sure the exact 2004 date implemented), a trap was added to the fuel supply line to prevent fuel from draining out of the secondary fuel filter housing (anti siphon). This new fuel supply line is attached to the fuel filter housing using a banjo bolt and is sealed using two copper washers. This fuel line cannot be retrofitted to earlier MY's.

There is also a "duckbill" valve in the tank on the recirculation line. I guess there is a possibility that it might play a role in keeping the secondary fuel filter bowl full.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/ford-man...ble%20Book.pdf
 
Reply
Old May 17, 2021 | 11:17 AM
  #15  
fordtruckrodder's Avatar
fordtruckrodder
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 332
Likes: 42
Originally Posted by bismic
A 2004 "running year change" was discussed in the 2005 Coffee Table Book (not sure the exact 2004 date implemented), a trap was added to the fuel supply line to prevent fuel from draining out of the secondary fuel filter housing (anti siphon). This new fuel supply line is attached to the fuel filter housing using a banjo bolt and is sealed using two copper washers. This fuel line cannot be retrofitted to earlier MY's.

There is also a "duckbill" valve in the tank on the recirculation line. I guess there is a possibility that it might play a role in keeping the secondary fuel filter bowl full.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/ford-man...ble%20Book.pdf
Bismic thanks, this is very helpful. I will check the copper washers just to make sure there isn't any leaks. Then go from there.

 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:57 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE