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Old Apr 23, 2021 | 06:02 PM
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I agree on the temp, but I just hate the idea of cheap rubber getting hard and leaking. I have seen some LOW quality Buna N.

I have used Grainger quite a bit in the past on some specialty things - now it comes up first in my searches for fittings and such.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2021 | 08:53 PM
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I've bought a ton of stuff from them, for work and personal. At work, I had more purchase orders at Grainger than at McMaster. There is a Grainger 7 minutes from where I live. McMaster 20 minutes down the highway. Four minutes a Tractor Supply. XDP 10 minutes. Nine Ford dealers in a 20min radius. I have access!

But I've been shopping Zoro for the past 18 months rather than Grainger; it works out cheaper.

Agreed with the soft product quality. There's a Parker hydraulics across from XDP. It's where I get most of my hydraulic fittings and hose.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2021 | 09:03 PM
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I have to admit that makes me a little jealous, but every winter I get over it.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2021 | 10:05 PM
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So..... EGT monitoring. I know ideally it would be best to use two gauges, one for each bank into the exhaust manifold. What would the temp drop be if I used one immediately behind the turbo on the down pipe? 200 degrees? B.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LindenBruce
So..... EGT monitoring. I know ideally it would be best to use two gauges, one for each bank into the exhaust manifold. What would the temp drop be if I used one immediately behind the turbo on the down pipe? 200 degrees? B.
I can't answer your Q, but I can relate what happened to a friend and former 6.0 owner - he tows pretty heavy (just below max gcvwr) and had an EGT probe in one exhaust bank. Unfortunately on a long uphill pull he lost an injector on the Other set of cylinders and bottom line he melted the piston from the over fueling on that side. Even watching the combined exhaust stream temp would likely have saved his engine/truck as he had flames coming out the tail pipe by the time he pulled over...

If you pull heavy, EGT is a good idea...

Good luck!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 12:05 PM
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I never pull heavy. Just a small dump trailer from time to time. But, that may change in the future. I have a tractor and will be getting a trailer in a year. I am thinking for doing mowing jobs for us country folks. So total weight will be in the neighborhood of 8k.

I want to add instrumentation to help me monitor the engines health to prevent a total rebuild like I am going through right now. BUT, I don't want my dash to look like it's something I grafted out of an F-16. I know, I know, get an SCT or something similar. Not for me, sorry. So I think a generic four gauge pod on the dash and a single "A" pillar pod under the driver's handle will give me the combination of gauges I am thinking of. Sound about right? B.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 12:17 PM
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Would work for me. If you cover the main 4. ECT, EOT, Fuel pressure and EGR Temp. You can tow and monitor. I still like my tablet with all main parameters. Piece of mind.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LindenBruce
I never pull heavy. Just a small dump trailer from time to time. But, that may change in the future. I have a tractor and will be getting a trailer in a year. I am thinking for doing mowing jobs for us country folks. So total weight will be in the neighborhood of 8k.

I want to add instrumentation to help me monitor the engines health to prevent a total rebuild like I am going through right now. BUT, I don't want my dash to look like it's something I grafted out of an F-16. I know, I know, get an SCT or something similar. Not for me, sorry. So I think a generic four gauge pod on the dash and a single "A" pillar pod under the driver's handle will give me the combination of gauges I am thinking of. Sound about right? B.
Just my opinion: but at that weight I think you'd be fine without monitoring EGT. When we load our slide-in camper and add the 3 horse trailer (with water, hay, and a couple of 1K horses), we're running at around 17.5K total (yes I've scaled it) and we will trek up to the high country like this. I don't monitor EGT, but I do monitor all the other critical PIDs and will adjust driving if I'm pushing say EOT... I'm pretty comfortable with this - but I have to add, that since we bought a used Motorhome, the camper is rarely on the truck, so just the horse trailer and we're down around 14K...

I like your idea of the single probe in the combined exhaust stream - if you can get an answer as to how that relates to manifold temps, well you have something really useful there...

Carry on!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by diesel_dan
I can't answer your Q, but I can relate what happened to a friend and former 6.0 owner - he tows pretty heavy (just below max gcvwr) and had an EGT probe in one exhaust bank. Unfortunately on a long uphill pull he lost an injector on the Other set of cylinders and bottom line he melted the piston from the over fueling on that side. Even watching the combined exhaust stream temp would likely have saved his engine/truck as he had flames coming out the tail pipe by the time he pulled over...

If you pull heavy, EGT is a good idea...

Good luck!

And that story is why I decided to put two thermocouples in at each of the exhaust manifolds. My concern was not about excessing pull temps, but to tell when an injector would cause a nuclear reaction in a cylinder; to avoid the "it's only 25 miles to my house" catastrophe.


 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 12:06 AM
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I really like that transducer in the Degause bottle there Jack. Do you know if that poster used a bulkhead fitting there? I prolly need to search for that poster. I see the single "A" pillar pod from GlowShift as well. Combined with the three gauge dash pod would give four gauges. Definitely something to mull over. Good ideas guys. Thanks. B.
I went this route after seeing 87crewdually's pics in another thread. Ran it like that for a year without any problems. One thing to be watchful of - there is an internal rib in that location so when drilling the pilot hole, make sure to either center the drill on it or far enough to the side to avoid it. I didn't think about it and luckily, just barely grazed the side of it with the tap.

It would be my preference for someone to sell an aluminum degas bottle with a 1/8" NPT lug there for the sensor.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 08:14 PM
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Uummm....... There are several already on the market right now. Mishimoto is one. But there are several other brands out there as well. B.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 10:20 PM
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Uummm....... There are several already on the market right now. Mishimoto is one. But there are several other brands out there as well. B.
Yes, there are several aluminum degas tanks on the market, but not one that I've seen with a threaded lug in the location where 87crewdually and I mounted the sensor. Mishimoto has a threaded lug on the front of the tank, in the perfect position where the sensor could be sheared off if not removed before pulling the air filter/intake assembly. Not to mention the welds look like azzz....

I guess on the XPD version you could screw the sensor into the passenger side port if you're going with the coolant re-route mod. And it isn't shiny so that should make Jack happy.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2021 | 08:09 AM
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My guess would be Mishimoto is using a high school Vo-tech welding class in China for the product. Maybe junior high.....high school should be better.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2021 | 10:24 PM
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The Sinister and DK Engines pieces look very similar. B.


 
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The XDP, Sinister, and DK Engines pieces are most likely made by the same supplier and private-labeled.
 
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