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I would have to agree. One person telling me to put a Cummins in it and another telling me 200k is too many miles. Didn’t ask for either of there opinions and wonder why they are trolling a 7.3 forum.
I got a motor swapped in a old Toyota today I’ve been meaning to get out of my way. Drove the 7.3 and it’s got some fuel smoke at a warm idle, I did a contribution test and it failed 2,3,and 7 however it still runs out great just feels slightly off at idle and smokes a little. I left the truck at the shop so hopefully I’ll get some diag time into it while I wait for my new fuel lines to show up from riff raff.
Fuel smoke, failing CCT, high and irregular PERDELS, injector builder with a reputation for poor quality - I’m leaning toward a set of (GOOD) injectors will fix this problem when you’re ready. It’s unlikely you will ‘hurt’ the engine running what you’ve got.
The AVERAGE mileage of the trucks I work on easily exceeds 200k miles. I’ve put fresh injectors in (2) trucks this year with over 300k miles. (I am south of the rust belt... ) My standard response to ‘How much is this truck worth?’ is ‘How much maintenance does it need?’ It’s rarely worth fixing rust - but for the right price, everything else is fair game.
Love my Toyota’s. Current fleet includes my ‘84 4Runner ‘crawler’ with lockers, dual t-cases, twin-stick, etc. and my son’s project ‘86 Custom Cab 4wd 5spd with 22R turbo.
Last edited by SkySkiJason; Jan 25, 2021 at 07:41 AM.
Reason: Added (GOOD)
For those in the future following along for troubleshooting procedures and wanting to know what PCR means, here is a basic description found via Google:
It is not related to the testing of a 7.3L in anyway, but it is a play on words (acronym in this case) that brings a bit of humor (or sadness based on your view) to the events over the past 12 months.
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Thanks.... That explains how an International 6.9 eventually gets to be a Ford third-generation 6.7L Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel engine
My 200k mile benchmark is "across the board" .........
One owner, excellent maintained, heaviest load is 5 bags of groceries, never pulled a trailer, parked in a garage, lives in a state below the Mason Dixon line, never need to plug it in.. I agree that it will run 300k miles.
Fleet truck, hot shot runner, pulling a gooseneck with 30k, north of the Mason Dixon line, several different drivers, death wobble, salt build up on frame and body, out of balance tires (shook to pieces).. 200k and it's toast.
We have many, many prospective buyers coming on FTE asking "Should I buy this Truck?".... After some discussion, it becomes evident if they Should... or ... Should Not buy that truck....
Hobo
Then say that to the OP. Don't just drop in the 240k and it's run out comment.
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The OP is looking for some "Warm and Fuzzy"..... He came to the wrong place to find it.
Hobo
My 7.3 with 360K on it is still going strong as so many thousands of others are, some with many more miles. To say that a 7.3 with 240K on it, that you know nothing about, is toast is just silly. Could be toast, for sure, but not likely.
OP wasn't looking for a warm fuzzy, he was looking for informed opinions and help with a course of action. You gave your opinion and others are giving theirs.
We'll see how it goes over time but my bet is he'll end up with a good running motor.
My 7.3 with 360K on it is still going strong as so many thousands of others are, some with many more miles. To say that a 7.3 with 240K on it, that you know nothing about, is toast is just silly. Could be toast, for sure, but not likely.
OP wasn't looking for a warm fuzzy, he was looking for informed opinions and help with a course of action. You gave your opinion and others are giving theirs.
We'll see how it goes over time but my bet is he'll end up with a good running motor.
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My bet is he will "Band-aid" it... Come back here and brag on how well it runs. When it fails he will be quiet as a Church Mouse.
I would have to agree. One person telling me to put a Cummins in it and another telling me 200k is too many miles. Didn’t ask for either of there opinions and wonder why they are trolling a 7.3 forum.
I got a motor swapped in a old Toyota today I’ve been meaning to get out of my way. Drove the 7.3 and it’s got some fuel smoke at a warm idle, I did a contribution test and it failed 2,3,and 7 however it still runs out great just feels slightly off at idle and smokes a little. I left the truck at the shop so hopefully I’ll get some diag time into it while I wait for my new fuel lines to show up from riff raff.
I'm confident that the Cummins comment was tongue in cheek, they just don't provide a sarcasm E Mo G.
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The OP is looking for some "Warm and Fuzzy"..... He came to the wrong place to find it.
Hobo
Originally Posted by hobohilton
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My bet is he will "Band-aid" it... Come back here and brag on how well it runs. When it fails he will be quiet as a Church Mouse.
Hobo
Spoken like a pro troll. Don’t go away mad, just go away.
The fact is you are almost certainly wrong and your chicken little comments make you sound uninformed and silly - albeit annoying.
The culture of this particular forum is one of a helpful nature and most of us embrace that. I have met literally 100’s of people that have contributed to this forum over the years and can say without a doubt most of the regular posters here are among the nicest people on earth.
Ive take a couple of cheap shots at an injector builder in this thread, but I have personally had multiple negative experiences with that company and would not recommend them to - well, even you.
Originally Posted by Bonanza35
He said know blow by I believe. If it was a piston, I would think it would have blow by for sure. If in doubt do a compression test in that cylinder.
I never do a compression test on an engine that runs good/has no blow by. The chances of a poor and misleading measurement/test exceed the likelihood there is a compression issue.
Buzz test, CCT, Perdels first and if problem persists in that cylinder, swap the injector with a ‘better’ one and see if problem follows. If it does not follow, there are some other things we can look for.
Gonna agree with SSJ on this one, on just about all points.
I’ve never been a regular poster on any of them, but I’ve been a lurker on pretty much every PSD forum and a few other related communities since W. was still in office, so I’ve seen a few. I’ve been reading content from users in this thread across multiple forums for years, even. I’ve been a long time member here but never a regular poster. I find this particular forum is positive, helpful, and the users tend to be mature and articulate, in addition to helpful. These are things I appreciate in a community, and I think others do too. More than enough places on the internet to spout off and stir things up anonymously if you want to. Feel free to uproot and fit in over there if you don’t fit in over here.
I'm confident that the Cummins comment was tongue in cheek, they just don't provide a sarcasm E Mo G.
Yes I do believe this comment was meant in fun.
Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
Spoken like a pro troll. Don’t go away mad, just go away.
The fact is you are almost certainly wrong and your chicken little commentsmake you sound uninformed and silly - albeit annoying.
The culture of this particular forum is one of a helpful nature and most of us embrace that. I have met literally 100’s of people that have contributed to this forum over the years and can say without a doubt most of the regular posters here are among the nicest people on earth.
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SSJ is absolutely correct. So many nice folks here. The annoying ones must want attention for some reason. He can go spew his nastiness on some other platform as it doesn’t fit in with this community.
Originally Posted by destroy
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I find this particular forum is positive, helpful, and the users tend to be mature and articulate, in addition to helpful. These are things I appreciate in a community, and I think others do too. More than enough places on the internet to spout off and stir things up anonymously if you want to. Feel free to uproot and fit in over there if you don’t fit in over here.
Welcome out from the shadows. You are absolutely correct there’s no room for that kind of negativity here.
To the OP, well the detour has distracted from the point of your tread. I saw SSJ post what I was thinking of as a good investigation step up above. Swap cylinders with the suspect injector and see if it follows. Of course this would be after you’ve completed some of their less intrusive checks.
I certainly missed a lot while I was at work today. I’m not sure how warm and fuzzy or bandaids came into play. I don’t always have a lot of time to work on my own rigs because I work on everyone else’s every day, but all of my rigs are well taken care of. My lack of time available to work on my own rigs does sometimes cause me to jump to conclusions. I have swapped out the injector on the noisy cylinder and there was no change. I ordered some new fuel lines from the filter housing to the heads but I am skeptical.
I had never heard any of the injectors I had purchased being poor quality, I would never have bought them. The truck ran great for the first 5k or so miles. Then this knock appeared, which is significantly louder when engine is cold. Followed by smoke at idle and rough starts. I hooked a gauge up today to the drain valve and it reads 80psi at idle, did not have time to drive it. I did notice that the icp sensor has the small hex on it so I know it’s aftermarket, so I will be replacing that for sure.
80psi fuel pressure is too high. Stock should be in the 50's or 60's.
The OEM ICP sensor has a small hex nut that is best removed with a crows foot. Later OE ICPs have a larger easy-to-grab nut. If the ICP has an oily connector it is bad or getting there fast.
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