When will it stop!
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They can all make the power. The Cummins I-6 is loved for its simplicity, and for its bottom end, It has one hell of a beefy crankshaft.
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Well, it just so happens that just about ALL of the 80 year olds that I know that drive the 40’ motor homes got their money by hard WORK......a lot of which includes driving class 8 trucks. More miles than most younger ones have in their wet dreams. So don’t be too quick to judge.
I personally like the under hood sound of the Cummins motor vs others.
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[QUOTE=speakerfritz;19608017]you would think we would have thought of that before buying a Ford.
I personally like the under hood sound of the Cummins motor vs others.[/QUOTE]
Ummmmm...........me 2!
BUT DON’T TELL ANYBODY ON THIS FORUM! LOL
I personally like the under hood sound of the Cummins motor vs others.[/QUOTE]
Ummmmm...........me 2!
BUT DON’T TELL ANYBODY ON THIS FORUM! LOL
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From: Central KY
I agree with the OP 100%. This pissing match is getting ridiculous now and it's going to have to stop somewhere.
Having said that, there is a part of me that's just happy somebody is stepping up and bending Ford over the table, because GM sure won't. Ford got used to being the leader in paper specs every single year. Ram has stepped up and said, "Nope, we're going to trump you regardless of what you do." I love it. And, they're doing it with two fewer cylinders and an engine that'll last forever. Oh, and an Aisin medium duty transmission that'll last longer than 3 Ford 10R transmissions combined.
Having said that, there is a part of me that's just happy somebody is stepping up and bending Ford over the table, because GM sure won't. Ford got used to being the leader in paper specs every single year. Ram has stepped up and said, "Nope, we're going to trump you regardless of what you do." I love it. And, they're doing it with two fewer cylinders and an engine that'll last forever. Oh, and an Aisin medium duty transmission that'll last longer than 3 Ford 10R transmissions combined.
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It's not just trucks.... It reaches to every item an American purchases. There is so much propaganda being blasted at an American every day... They don't know what to believe. Hind sight is still 20 / 20.... But the Internet is overloaded with "Influencer's". YouTube is one of the worst places... We don't get the quality products we did 50 years ago. But there are always products that rank high against the competition. Every manufactured item is engineered to have a "Lifetime"... We just have to be smarter than the looters.
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This us pretty stupid, but frankly, I could see Dodge fan boys running out to buy a new red herring... oh... I mean limited model Dodge... oh, pardon me.... RAM, just to have bragging rights. I know ALOT of diesel owners, both personal users and business owners, and all could care less who has bragging rights on HP, torque, OR towing. This is like to old ladies arguing about their polyester vs rayon pant suits. Just stupid. Fiat should focus on building a truck that doesn’t fall apart well before the engine. Maybe I’m exposed to a different group, but most of the business owners I work with that had a newer Dodge Cummins after buying into the hype now own 6.7L Strokes, and will never go back after their Cummins/Ram experiences using their rigs for actual work. I doubt if Ram (or Ford for that matter) will have consumers flocking to the dealerships if they jump to 1500 lb/ft torque... except those 19-23 year olds trying to impress each other with mom and dads money. 😆
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This us pretty stupid, but frankly, I could see Dodge fan boys running out to buy a new red herring... oh... I mean limited model Dodge... oh, pardon me.... RAM, just to have bragging rights. I know ALOT of diesel owners, both personal users and business owners, and all could care less who has bragging rights on HP, torque, OR towing. This is like to old ladies arguing about their polyester vs rayon pant suits. Just stupid. Fiat should focus on building a truck that doesn’t fall apart well before the engine. Maybe I’m exposed to a different group, but most of the business owners I work with that had a newer Dodge Cummins after buying into the hype now own 6.7L Strokes, and will never go back after their Cummins/Ram experiences using their rigs for actual work. I doubt if Ram (or Ford for that matter) will have consumers flocking to the dealerships if they jump to 1500 lb/ft torque... except those 19-23 year olds trying to impress each other with mom and dads money. 😆
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Regardless of the specs and "longevity" of the motor, will the frame and body last equally as long?
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I agree with the OP 100%. This pissing match is getting ridiculous now and it's going to have to stop somewhere.
Having said that, there is a part of me that's just happy somebody is stepping up and bending Ford over the table, because GM sure won't. Ford got used to being the leader in paper specs every single year. Ram has stepped up and said, "Nope, we're going to trump you regardless of what you do." I love it. And, they're doing it with two fewer cylinders and an engine that'll last forever. Oh, and an Aisin medium duty transmission that'll last longer than 3 Ford 10R transmissions combined.
Having said that, there is a part of me that's just happy somebody is stepping up and bending Ford over the table, because GM sure won't. Ford got used to being the leader in paper specs every single year. Ram has stepped up and said, "Nope, we're going to trump you regardless of what you do." I love it. And, they're doing it with two fewer cylinders and an engine that'll last forever. Oh, and an Aisin medium duty transmission that'll last longer than 3 Ford 10R transmissions combined.
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I have hauled with old class 8's with less HP and TQ than most diesel class 3's have today.
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Ford got used to being the leader in paper specs every single year. Ram has stepped up and said, "Nope, we're going to trump you regardless of what you do." I love it. And, they're doing it with two fewer cylinders and an engine that'll last forever. Oh, and an Aisin medium duty transmission that'll last longer than 3 Ford 10R transmissions combined.
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From: Black Hills of SD
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