When will it stop!
Cargo Master
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,363
Likes: 1,104
You don't need 1000tq to tow 42K, it's nice to have tho.....
I do more with less. Chevy has bowed out and Ford will release 1100 TQ.
Hotshot
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 12,317
Likes: 4,336
From: SW VA
EVs are stupid, a scam, and I will never own that crap.
Hotshot
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,126
Likes: 7,925
From: Texas
If there is a wreck........somebody did something wrong. So where does that leave us? Insurance just say we were in the wrong and...........BAM?
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,641
Likes: 507
From: Phelan CA
If B++++ somehow 'wins', it's going to get much worse. Torque ratings of imported trucks are the least of my concerns as of now. The mere act of owning a truck in the near future may be at risk.
Cross-Country
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 77
Likes: 8
From: Orange County
It will take a long time for electric trucks to make sense. No way the current battery tech can hold that amount of power for more than a handful of miles. TFL on YouTube couldn't even make it work towing 3k (I forget the exact number) with a Tesla.
EVs are stupid, a scam, and I will never own that crap.
EVs are stupid, a scam, and I will never own that crap.
Hotshot
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,126
Likes: 7,925
From: Texas
Ford still has the HP advantage. And whether anyone believes it or not, that DOES make a difference. My 2016 F350 DRW PSD with 3.73 gears @ 440 HP but “only” 860 lb ft torque will out pull my 2018 RAM 3500 DRW with 4.10 gears @ 385 HP and 950 lb ft torque. That is pulling the same trailers in the same areas on the same roads using the same fuel.
And for those that don’t know how to use Ford’ exhaust brake.........The RAM still has nothing over on Ford there either. Learn how to use Ford’s EB and it is fine. 2 miles of 6% grade and a stop light at the bottom.....top the hill @ 70 with 18000 lb pushing me and never touch the service brake until about 150 ft from the light. RAM doesn’t do any better.
And for those that don’t know how to use Ford’ exhaust brake.........The RAM still has nothing over on Ford there either. Learn how to use Ford’s EB and it is fine. 2 miles of 6% grade and a stop light at the bottom.....top the hill @ 70 with 18000 lb pushing me and never touch the service brake until about 150 ft from the light. RAM doesn’t do any better.
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Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 175
Likes: 6
This. Instead of everybody trying to one up one each other over torque and tow capacity, the manufacturer should be in a competition to see who can get the most mpg out of their trucks. From reading mpg threads in the past, I know a lot of us would not mind getting better mpg since a lot of us do city stop n go driving when not towing or hauling.
Tuned
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 336
Likes: 5
You all keep talking about electric trucks? Hybrid is the next evolution!! V6 diesel with electric motors supporting them is the next step. Make huge power with this setup is easy!! Its not an all or nothing game. Wake up...Hybrid is next for the SD trucks.
Mountain Pass
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 175
Likes: 6
I will say that I read OTR articles from truck, engine, tire,equipment manfacturers and so on, and they all talk about how they do this and that and it helps achieve 2%, 11%, etc, etc better mpg and it just gets me thinking if the big 3 needs this sort of mentality. Perhaps some members who are OTR truckers could chime in with their experience. A lot of the material could also be just marketing BS and perhaps wishful thinking on my part but I would like a way to "reasonable" achieve better mpg (i.e. no start stop or MDS garbage). I believe the 10 speed transmission is a good step in pursuing mpg and its things like this that I feel Ford should spend time on instead of max tow rating.
Hotshot
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 10,126
Likes: 7,925
From: Texas
Big numbers sell.........BIGGER numbers sell more......BIGGEST numbers sell MOST!
Regardless of what we SAY we want, the marketers push toward what we spend our money on.
It kind of goes back to the old adage; Don’t listen too much to what people say, just watch what they do.
Regardless of what we SAY we want, the marketers push toward what we spend our money on.
It kind of goes back to the old adage; Don’t listen too much to what people say, just watch what they do.
Cargo Master
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 2,072
Likes: 1,027
From: Michigan
Fossil fuels alone will never meet the CAFE standards over the coming years. That is why car companies are turning to electric. When battery technology catches up to provide 500 mile range and a 20 minutes time max charge, gas/diesel is done. With the advent of aluminum trucks and engines, that in a normal driving pattern, can go 300k plus miles, you could buy a truck today, and it would run till fossil fuels are gone.
Now in Brazil they run 100% plant based fuels, so they may switch over last....
Now in Brazil they run 100% plant based fuels, so they may switch over last....