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Old Nov 21, 2020 | 07:21 PM
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Brake light switch

My brakes have been acting inconsistent. Sometimes they work sometimes they don’t. My blinkers work without issue, I tried replacing the switch but the same thing happened.

What other grounds are there to check besides the ones in the tail light housing?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2020 | 10:09 PM
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You probably mean that your brake lights have been acting inconsistently....
The hydraulic switch on the master cylinder is the weak link in the system...pretty easy to change and not expensive.
 
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Haha yes I did mean that. My mistake!
I did in fact get a new one when I noticed the issue.
I changed it but I still am having the same issue.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2020 | 11:04 PM
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The brake and turn signal use the same wire and bulb filament, so the issue is likely up front.

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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 06:51 AM
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The brake and turn signal use the same wire and bulb filament, so the issue is likely up front.

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so where should I look? Brake switch or turn signal switch? Fuse box?
 
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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 01:18 PM
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Ok being the turn & brake lights use the same part of the bulb, wires back to the bulbs from the turn signal switch it can be anything in front of the turn switch.

I would first unplug the brake light switch wires and short them together did the brake lights work?
If so I would then check the switch with a ohm meter if it works and if not replace it again.

If they did not light when shorted try flipping the turn signal switch a few times and see if they start to work.
If not you will need to trace the wires from the brake light switch that feed to the turn switch and see if the turn switch is getting the signal from the brake light switch and if not you need to fix that wire.
If the turn signal switch is getting a signal from the brake light switch then I would think the turn signal switch is no goodand needs to be replaced.
Dave ----
ps replace the fuses for turn and/or brake lights, don't just check them by looking at them REPLACE THEM!
 
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Okay great! Thanks for the help, I really just needed something to get on the right path! I should have time to do all that later this week, thanks!
 
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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 05:00 PM
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Is this brake light switch one of those pressure types? Ford used them for a long time, but the parts houses only carry the el-cheapos now. If they last a year you're doing good. Try a genuine Autolite/Motorcraft part, or some convert to a pedal mounted switch and avoid the hassle.

I'm not very good with wiring, but one thing that helps me with brake lights & turn signal jiggery-pokery and the rest of it is to basically divide the system in half. That way the defect can be ruled out in the steering column and under the dash, or somewhere in the engine bay.

The way you do that is at those rubber block pin connectors that go through the firewall. These probably need cleaning anyway. Clean and bright and shiny tight. Use a simple test light - an 1157 bulb with some wires soldered to it and alligator clips works great. Start where it still works, and then keep going back, to where it don't. Somewhere in there, is the trouble. Old splices, mices, and corrosion cause lots of problems. There are a few SAE and bullet connectors under the bed, and in the tailgate area particularly that probably haven't been apart in quite some time, if ever. Mac's and the other usual suspects sells replacement harnesses for these too.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 08:39 PM
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I have heard that Harley-Davidson brake switches are the better quality ones. Yes, they screw in, but terminals can be different.
Sorry, no idea of year, however IF (big if, these days) your counterperson is good, they'll know.
P.S. I would (and have) relay the brake switch, takes the electrical load off the contacts, and they last longer.
P.P.S. I put a mechnical (Genuine Ford) brake light switch in my truck.
 
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
Ok being the turn & brake lights use the same part of the bulb, wires back to the bulbs from the turn signal switch it can be anything in front of the turn switch.

I would first unplug the brake light switch wires and short them together did the brake lights work?
If so I would then check the switch with a ohm meter if it works and if not replace it again.

If they did not light when shorted try flipping the turn signal switch a few times and see if they start to work.
If not you will need to trace the wires from the brake light switch that feed to the turn switch and see if the turn switch is getting the signal from the brake light switch and if not you need to fix that wire.
If the turn signal switch is getting a signal from the brake light switch then I would think the turn signal switch is no goodand needs to be replaced.
Dave ----
ps replace the fuses for turn and/or brake lights, don't just check them by looking at them REPLACE THEM!
To add to Dave: Be sure your ign switch is on when you do your testing.

John
 
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Old Nov 23, 2020 | 07:34 AM
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o add to Dave: Be sure your ign switch is on when you do your testing.

John
Do you have to have the switch on for brake lights to work??
 
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Old Nov 23, 2020 | 04:17 PM
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Do you have to have the switch on for brake lights to work??
Yes. It seems that Ford wired the brake switch through the ignition.
 
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Brake lights work without the ignition on.
 
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