Notices
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Fat Fendered and Classic Ford Trucks

brake lines, kit or scratch built?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 06:13 PM
  #1  
AllenV's Avatar
AllenV
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 336
Likes: 56
From: Rio Grande Valley, NM
Club FTE Gold Member
brake lines, kit or scratch built?

I am at a decision point on my '55 F100 rebuild. (Linked in signature) The next thing is to install new brakes. This includes new hard brake lines. The truck will remain stock so I have a choice of building all of it from scratch or buying one of the pre-built line kits available from a number of sources. I have not done a detailed cost analysis but I suspect that cost might be similar either way. the reason being that I would need to by a tubing flare tool if I go the scratch route. And I favor the nice one that Eastwood sells. ( A little bit of PTSD here as as a kid messing with cars I had a lot of "do overs" with my Dad's flaring tool as it tended to let the tube slip and mess up the flare.)

So, I am asking for your input. Are the pre-built kits as wonderful as they claim? If so, which kit is THE one to use? I'll start by saying that I am concerned that the tubing kit would get mangled in shipping and be a real project to properly un-mangle. But, if the right vendor knows how to pack and ship this may be a non-issue. I don't mind the work of scratch building. I just want the best result.

Over to you...
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 07:25 PM
  #2  
Mike Shuey's Avatar
Mike Shuey
Mountain Pass
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 114
Likes: 3
From: Portage Oh
https://www.inlinetube.com/ Couldn't make lines any neater and fit better than the pre-made with original fittings this company sells.
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 07:33 PM
  #3  
3twinridges's Avatar
3twinridges
Cargo Master
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 2,442
Likes: 256
Originally Posted by AllenV
I am at a decision point on my '55 F100 rebuild. (Linked in signature) The next thing is to install new brakes. This includes new hard brake lines. The truck will remain stock so I have a choice of building all of it from scratch or buying one of the pre-built line kits available from a number of sources. I have not done a detailed cost analysis but I suspect that cost might be similar either way. the reason being that I would need to by a tubing flare tool if I go the scratch route. And I favor the nice one that Eastwood sells. ( A little bit of PTSD here as as a kid messing with cars I had a lot of "do overs" with my Dad's flaring tool as it tended to let the tube slip and mess up the flare.)

So, I am asking for your input. Are the pre-built kits as wonderful as they claim? If so, which kit is THE one to use? I'll start by saying that I am concerned that the tubing kit would get mangled in shipping and be a real project to properly un-mangle. But, if the right vendor knows how to pack and ship this may be a non-issue. I don't mind the work of scratch building. I just want the best result.

Over to you...
We made our own for the 52 F1 build. Inline tube makes a nice zinc coated line that flares well. Besides the flare tool, you will need a good bender, and a good straightener. I did buy the rear axle line pre-made from DC, it has a lot of detailed bends, and is easy to ship.

JB
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 08:04 PM
  #4  
Harrier's Avatar
Harrier
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,679
Likes: 1,251
From: Jefferson City, MO
I bent my own on my 55 F250. It was considerably cheaper and it gave me the opportunity to learn.
I bought a flare kit and went to work. I used a fine very dry sand to help with the bend. Fill the brake line with the sand and you can mostly bend by hand and it won't crimp.
Be sure to use dry sand and get it all out when done.

I bought a pre bent fuel line and it came bent extra to fit in a box, so I had to straighten it at that location anyway. Pre bent brake lines might be the same way.
If you have a fairly decent flaring tool you should be good. I practiced a bit on my flaring.
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 08:35 PM
  #5  
Hanger53's Avatar
Hanger53
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 228
Likes: 5
From: Decatur, MI
I bought the Eastwood Flaring Tool, Bender, Line and Fittings.. Built the entire system for about what I would have spent on a pre-bent kit, including a Dual Master Cylinder..
It came out very good and I now have the tools if needed.. (My brother in law is now using it to do his International Scout and another friend is next on the list for his F100..)
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 09:30 PM
  #6  
abe's Avatar
abe
Fleet Owner
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 25,376
Likes: 5,385
From: Central PA
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by Hanger53
I bought the Eastwood Flaring Tool, Bender, Line and Fittings.. Built the entire system for about what I would have spent on a pre-bent kit, including a Dual Master Cylinder..
It came out very good and I now have the tools if needed.. (My brother in law is now using it to do his International Scout and another friend is next on the list for his F100..)
Bob, how is your 53 coming along? Any updates? With pics?

Joe Harrier, I must have gotten the same prebent fuel line. You had to straighten it at the designated spot.
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2020 | 09:33 PM
  #7  
pweng1's Avatar
pweng1
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,350
Likes: 24
From: Maryland
I bought the eastwood too because with 7 trucks i knew i would be doing many lines. You cant get easier and fuel lines and air lines are even more reason to buy.
 
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2020 | 09:26 AM
  #8  
bobj49f2's Avatar
bobj49f2
Hotshot
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Shutterbug
Community Builder
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 16,882
Likes: 3,126
From: SE Wisc. (the Rust Belt)
I've never bought a prebent set, I've always have done my own.

#1 rule I've found is to buy a good flaring tool. When I did my last brake lining on my '37 Buick I tried to go cheap and use the free tool rental from two different McParts auto parts store. All of the tools were worn in the gripping area. I got smart and bought a brand new flaring tool from NAPA, it wasn't that expensive, I think maybe $30-35, maybe.

#2 use a straightened metal coat hanger and use it to make a pattern for your bends.

#3, and this is really BIG, before flaring the end of your line make sure you have the fitting on the tube. This might sound stupid but I did a few really nice long runs with some intricate bends, flared the end and found I forgot to install the fitting

#4 the new type of coated lines are easier to bend without kinking and sometimes somewhat easy to straighten if you make an incorrect bend or if you over bent. The old type of line is a PIA to work with, kinks easy and is impossible to straighten once bent.

I buy the line in a large coil, not sure but I think it comes in 25 foot lengths. I unroll what I need, cut and then use a piece of plywood or cleared bench top and a 2x4 cut about a foot long and use it to roll the line on the plywood working my way down until I have a straight piece of line.

Also, if you've never done it before there are a load of videos on Youtube of people bending and flaring brake lines. I used to help my dad do all kinds of auto repairs and learned a lot from him but he died 30 years ago and in the mean time I don't as much auto repairs as we used to do so I get rusty and the videos help a lot.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Nov 2, 2020 | 02:24 PM
  #9  
52 Merc's Avatar
52 Merc
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 16,173
Likes: 4,780
From: Burbank, WA
I've done it both ways, scratch built and kit purchased. If you're doing it for a customer the labor to scratch build doesn't pencil. I've had good experience with Inline Tube and Classic Tube. Some companies sell products that others don't, so you'll have to shop around if you go that route. It's very common when needing to ship an 8 foot line in a 4 foot box to have it double back in the middle for shipping. The bend radius is very large and easy to undo. There's instruction on how to do it, and it works. If I was time crunched and needed to get it done, I'd buy the kit. If you have time and talent, you can make your own. There is a trick and learning curve to making the bends just right so the line goes in the direction you want, where you need it to. Figure on wasting a few practice lines if you're a beginner. You do need a certain level of patience, but it's definitely doable.
 
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2020 | 09:17 PM
  #10  
thrifty's Avatar
thrifty
More Turbo
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 708
Likes: 28
From: Pahrump, Nv.
I bought an expensive flaring tool from Eastwood. It has dies and there are 2 steps to the process, but they come out perfect every time. I have a bunch of trucks and figured it was money well spent. Just finished the 56 and I am very happy with the results. I also buy the 25 ft. rolls but made a tool to straighten out the lines. You can buy these but I chose to build mine
 
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2020 | 09:30 PM
  #11  
Hanger53's Avatar
Hanger53
Senior User
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 228
Likes: 5
From: Decatur, MI
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
What "thrifty" said....
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2020 | 08:02 AM
  #12  
AllenV's Avatar
AllenV
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 336
Likes: 56
From: Rio Grande Valley, NM
Club FTE Gold Member
This has become an excellent collection of approaches and experiences. I thank you all for your time and consideration.

The positive experience folks have had with the named pre-bent suppliers combined with the fact I am only doing one truck has led me to conclude that purchasing pre-bent is best for me at this time.
 
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2020 | 12:03 PM
  #13  
1956_F100's Avatar
1956_F100
Elder User
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 645
Likes: 10
Originally Posted by AllenV
This has become an excellent collection of approaches and experiences. I thank you all for your time and consideration.

The positive experience folks have had with the named pre-bent suppliers combined with the fact I am only doing one truck has led me to conclude that purchasing pre-bent is best for me at this time.
That's what I would do. I installed a stainless steel pre-bent brake line kit from Inline Tube on a 1969 Mach 1 and it fit just like the original. The stainless is more difficult to work with and also it can gall where the tube nuts bear up against the back sides of the flares. I put a very thin film of anti-seize compound at those locations.

If you were determined on making your own I'd think about using the newer Nickel-Copper brake line tubing since it's easier to bend and flare and there are no long tern corrosion issues like with steel. I found The Stop Shop has some fairly good prices for do-it-yourself kits and individual parts and line.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
colbygingles
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
17
Jul 26, 2018 08:01 PM
jrockdiddy
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
14
Feb 20, 2014 05:10 PM
reed1951
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
13
Jul 30, 2011 09:54 AM
77f2504by4
Garage & Workshop
10
Oct 1, 2008 07:55 PM
kc 300EX
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
1
Aug 21, 2004 06:37 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:53 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE