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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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is this a good tool kit?

KD Tools Master Tubing Service Kit - Model KDS41590 at Sears.com

i need to do some custom brake lines soon and i'm thinking of getting this kit. any one have it? recommend a better set?
 
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Seems to be pretty decent, although I have never used a bender. Hand forming always worked well for me.
 
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i already have a bender, but i need to do some custom work with weird sized fittings, and that requires the use of a double flaring tool.

i like to use benders to get in the ballpark of the shape needed then hand tweak them. when i try using no bender, i tend to kink the lines...

thanks for the quick reply!
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Kit appears to have all the items you will need. Since you already have a tube bender, may want to consider getting a kit minus the benderl, although, I prefer having 2-3 different type benders on hand. Looks like you are familiar with bending brake and fuel lines but thought I would toss in couple article I came across may find helpful.

Bending Stainless Steel Tubing - Car Craft Magazine

Brake Line Basics - Tech Articles - Classic Trucks Magazine
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 09:52 PM
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I bought the Craftsman Double Flairing tool with the intention of using and returning it. It doesn't include the bender and cost the same $$ but it's American made... Changed my mind, this is a good tool that works. That's a lot more than I can say about the OTC one that I started with! I added a $.99 Harbor Freight lifetime carbide 45 degree countersink and a small machinist file to the kit and been double flairing ever since.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by daveengelson
Kit appears to have all the items you will need. Since you already have a tube bender, may want to consider getting a kit minus the benderl, although, I prefer having 2-3 different type benders on hand. Looks like you are familiar with bending brake and fuel lines but thought I would toss in couple article I came across may find helpful.

Bending Stainless Steel Tubing - Car Craft Magazine

Brake Line Basics - Tech Articles - Classic Trucks Magazine

added links to my favorites!! Thanks alot of good info, now i actually know how to use a tubing bender properly! maybe now i wont screw up lines any more!!!
 
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Old Sep 29, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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I bought the Craftsman Double Flairing tool with the intention of using and returning it. It doesn't include the bender and cost the same $$ but it's American made... Changed my mind, this is a good tool that works. That's a lot more than I can say about the OTC one that I started with! I added a $.99 Harbor Freight lifetime carbide 45 degree countersink and a small machinist file to the kit and been double flairing ever since.
i was going to buy the craftsman one, untill i saw the kd tools one was 5 bucks more, and came with extra stuff! i ordered the kd tools set today, and cant wait to try it out!! years ago i had a break line blow out that had been rubbing, and like a fool i replaced the whole line, i wish i had a double flaring tool way back then!
 
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Some really interesting comments on this thread. I've always been too hesitant to flare my own lines. The few times I've been faced with the issue, I bought standard length lines with the ends already flared.

Checked out the KD website, and they looked OK. However, I do wonder what you might look for in a flaring tool -- other than that it seems to be solidly made.

Two other comments -- and again, I haven't done any flaring myself ( yet)

1. The CC link mentions using the a KD flaring tool for stainless. The KD website specifically says that their tool is NOT for stainless

2. A former garage jockey (NOT a trained mechanic)I used to know said that trying to splice brake lines was a real PITA. Claimed that the old lines usually split when you tried to flare them.

I'd welcome any commnts on my comments
 
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Originally Posted by ford2go

1. The CC link mentions using the a KD flaring tool for stainless. The KD website specifically says that their tool is NOT for stainless

I'd be surprised if any affordable flaring tools will double flare stainless tube.




Originally Posted by ford2go

2. A former garage jockey (NOT a trained mechanic)I used to know said that trying to splice brake lines was a real PITA. Claimed that the old lines usually split when you tried to flare them.
I can see a few reasons why old failed tubing would crack when flaring. was he double flaring? Double flaring will prevent cracking. Internal/external rust could be an issue too.

The prep of the tube is the key to a good double flair.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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Looks like a good kit. I have flared many a fuel or brake line and never had a problem with the end splitting. But then I also try to get away from the problem area for the splice. I always use a bender to get it to the general shape, then hand bend the rest of the way to tweek it to where it should be. I bent a few tubes with out the bender and kinked them.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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I have the earlier version of the KD kit. I usually have to use a wrench on the flare handle to get it squished down properly. I would look at a handle type flarer.
 
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