E.P.A.
Fleet Mechanic
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That would be like banning ATVs in America because a tiny percent of the people drove them on the road. You shouldn't slap down a blanket law for everyone for the actions of a few. Get caught running off-road stuff on the road? Pay the price, but the government shouldn't make 100% of the people suffer the consequences.
Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2019
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From: Southeast MO
If you think about it, it's the end user that should technically be held responsible not the company making the products. But then again gun manufacturers get sued if someone commits mass murder with their products. Man our country is so screwed up right now.....
Logistics Pro
Joined: May 2017
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From: Southern OH
Agreed, there are many products that can be used illegaly, ever read the the label on something that says " it is illegal to use this product in a manor inconsistent with its labeling" or something to that effect? Delete equipment and tunes should be no different, they should me marketed for closed course competition use only and it shouldn't be the companys responsibility if the customer doesn't follow the rules.
More Turbo
Joined: Oct 2020
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Agreed, there are many products that can be used illegaly, ever read the the label on something that says " it is illegal to use this product in a manor inconsistent with its labeling" or something to that effect? Delete equipment and tunes should be no different, they should me marketed for closed course competition use only and it shouldn't be the companys responsibility if the customer doesn't follow the rules.
Exactly... but seems everyone loves the nanny state and personal responsibility be damned...
Most think the EPA was established to protect us serfs... nope all to protect corporations...
Tuned
Joined: Nov 2019
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GM installed highly encrypted security on the L5P duramax starting in 2017 and guess what it wasn't too long before the aftermarket found away around it. It does require physical modification to the PCB and adds costs but they can tune the newer duramax trucks. The 2020 Fords can be tuned as well. Many have already tuned their 2020s. Currently you can flash the TCM via OBD but the PCM needs to be flashed straight to the PCM with the correct hardware. Personally I'm keeping my DPF intact on my 2020 but I will be altering the tuning eventually for a bump in power. Also the oem TCM calibration had been **** so far.
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2018
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I don’t think you have to be a liberal to think there should be some control on what other people do that pollutes the earth we all share. Sometimes the requirements seem unreasonable, yes. But to take the position that everyone should be free to do what they wish, regardless of the impact on everyone else is absurd.
More Turbo
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I don’t think you have to be a liberal to think there should be some control on what other people do that pollutes the earth we all share. Sometimes the requirements seem unreasonable, yes. But to take the position that everyone should be free to do what they wish, regardless of the impact on everyone else is absurd.
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More Turbo
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If you're walking down the street and someone throws a wrapper on the ground, does that mean you should too? Even when I was overseas in some filthy places where people didn't care, I still felt an obligation to respect my surroundings to not needlessly pollute just because others were doing it.
More Turbo
Joined: Oct 2010
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From: fly-over country
I'm reminded of the swimming pool model. If I understand you correctly it is OK to have a special pissing section in the pool. Have I misunderstood?
What is a "dpf"? In this forum dpf is usually diesel particulate filter.
And, without any understood context or heartfelt meaning " Period. Grow up.".
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2018
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The average African is responsible for a fraction of a fraction of the pollution generated by you or me. You need to get some context before you tell other people to grow up.
Cargo Master
Joined: Mar 2005
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The “I wont drop a wrapper on the ground but will support global toxic manufacturing” crowd applauds my 40hp mini excavator to have a dpf, that to me is childish in priorities, and counter productive. Deregulate logically.
Cargo Master
Joined: Sep 2013
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From: Pryor, OK
Ford has been well aware this was coming for a long time (hence Ford Racing parts). Look at the new Bronco. Over 200 "aftermarket" parts installed at the factory or dealer. The Mustang as well. Auto manufacturers are not fighting this at all. In the end, they will be making a lot more money while the smaller parts manufacturers will suffer greatly.