2016 mpg
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2016 mpg
Question for y'all, I am looking for some better mpg out of my 2016 250 particularly when towing. I usually average arou 14/15 when commuting but as soon as I plug my trailer in it drops to 10. Loaded or unloaded. Trailer is just a 22’ car hauler I use for my old Bronco. So question is, is there something with the ecu that drops the milage when it senses a trailer? I don't usually use the tow/haul button unless I'm start/stop driving or in the hills.
Second question is should I just be looking at upgrades. I already have an intake. Need to do exhaust, but is the dpf delete a good idea? Lastly tuner? Was looking at banks. Not trying to race or roll coal. Truck seems to make tons of power and tows easily. But 10 mpg on my last 3,000 mile trip has me irritated.
Of note I am (unfortunately) in CA so there's the smogging it issue and the truck has ~110,000 miles on it. Thanks for any help
Second question is should I just be looking at upgrades. I already have an intake. Need to do exhaust, but is the dpf delete a good idea? Lastly tuner? Was looking at banks. Not trying to race or roll coal. Truck seems to make tons of power and tows easily. But 10 mpg on my last 3,000 mile trip has me irritated.
Of note I am (unfortunately) in CA so there's the smogging it issue and the truck has ~110,000 miles on it. Thanks for any help
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DPF delete is pretty much a thing of the past with EPA cracking down on the tune writers and selling of "race only" items for the street. You can buy a non-delete tuner from Edge, SuperChips and others that might help or might not.
10mpg is fairly decent for towing with the 6.7. What mph are you driving when you get 10mpg? Many complain about worse mpg than that. I get between 10 and 11 driving 62-64 mph with my 2015 DRW.
10mpg is fairly decent for towing with the 6.7. What mph are you driving when you get 10mpg? Many complain about worse mpg than that. I get between 10 and 11 driving 62-64 mph with my 2015 DRW.
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You drop a trailer on you add resistance, 4 tires plus the weight of the trailer (approximately 2200 lbs or a little over 1 ton) and whatever you may have on the trailer, the truck only looks at the trailer for the brake controller nothing else. You are adding load/weight to the truck whether it is physically on the truck or being towed behind even when "EMPTY" and that means burning more fuel to maintain speed. Weight adds on quickly Biggest thing to increase mileage is slow down especially when you add a trailer.
When I tow I typically drop my speed to about 62 to 64 like Just Stroken says.
When I tow I typically drop my speed to about 62 to 64 like Just Stroken says.
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I typically drive 65-70 when towing. I understand towing even empty adds resistance, just always seems crazy to me that the mileage doesn't drop off from 3k to 10k. Maybe if see it more if I hauled bigger loads.
So the big question then is adding power. I've heard good and bad about edge etc. More good reviews about banks, partly why I mentioned them. Was hoping someone here might have first hand experience with them. Thank you guys for the feedback
So the big question then is adding power. I've heard good and bad about edge etc. More good reviews about banks, partly why I mentioned them. Was hoping someone here might have first hand experience with them. Thank you guys for the feedback
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I'm old school, started driving in the 70s, mostly stick when I started working, a few flat heads but I grew up in Arkansas and drove a lot of back roads. For maximum mileage 55 mph but it takes forever to get anywhere, for your best mileage towing drop to 60 to 65.
I personally don't like tuners, the engineers that set these vehicles up originally set them for optimum for pulling power, speed, emissions, and long life. It's a compromise and some guys will argue it doesn't matter, especially about emissions. The guys doing the tuning have other priorities and what usually suffers is longevity or emissions, usually both.
Some guys will argue this but I've seen it before.
I personally don't like tuners, the engineers that set these vehicles up originally set them for optimum for pulling power, speed, emissions, and long life. It's a compromise and some guys will argue it doesn't matter, especially about emissions. The guys doing the tuning have other priorities and what usually suffers is longevity or emissions, usually both.
Some guys will argue this but I've seen it before.
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I'm old school, started driving in the 70s, mostly stick when I started working, a few flat heads but I grew up in Arkansas and drove a lot of back roads. For maximum mileage 55 mph but it takes forever to get anywhere, for your best mileage towing drop to 60 to 65.
I personally don't like tuners, the engineers that set these vehicles up originally set them for optimum for pulling power, speed, emissions, and long life. It's a compromise and some guys will argue it doesn't matter, especially about emissions. The guys doing the tuning have other priorities and what usually suffers is longevity or emissions, usually both.
Some guys will argue this but I've seen it before.
I personally don't like tuners, the engineers that set these vehicles up originally set them for optimum for pulling power, speed, emissions, and long life. It's a compromise and some guys will argue it doesn't matter, especially about emissions. The guys doing the tuning have other priorities and what usually suffers is longevity or emissions, usually both.
Some guys will argue this but I've seen it before.
A square box adds a tremendous amount of resistance, not so much weight wise, but just drag from the wind. And drag increases exponentially as speed increases.......no way around that.
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No one has mentioned it yet, but what is the air pressure in your trailer tires. Trailer tires, not the LT tires, are designed to be run at max pressure. Most standard radial ST tires have max pressure of 65 psi. At max pressure, this reduces rolling resistance. Also radial ST tires are designed for straight line rolling and not corning. Keep a check on your tire pressure might help a little with mpg.
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[QUOTE=EDC8008;19540985]I'm old school, started driving in the 70s, mostly stick when I started working, a few flat heads
Love them old flattys! Got a late model block sitting in the garage waiting to get built. Just need to find an old bucket to put it in. My 73 Bronco seems to take up most of the time.
Tire pressure was 65 and bearings all greased at the start of the trip. I guess it just is what it is. I am going to try out the Banks derringer and see what happens and get the exhaust done. Gotta work with what I have and live with it. Thanks for all of the feedback!
Love them old flattys! Got a late model block sitting in the garage waiting to get built. Just need to find an old bucket to put it in. My 73 Bronco seems to take up most of the time.
Tire pressure was 65 and bearings all greased at the start of the trip. I guess it just is what it is. I am going to try out the Banks derringer and see what happens and get the exhaust done. Gotta work with what I have and live with it. Thanks for all of the feedback!
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