Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

FICM Sync 😢

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 10:53 AM
  #16  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,881
Likes: 3,595
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by tfunk88
So, truck is acting up again. Started right up this morning. Drove to the gym. At the gym a little over an hour and now it won’t start. No cam sync. IPR cycle is at 45 while cranking, so I’m guessing not a high pressure oil leak. How bad is the cam sensor to change out?
I'll track down a write up on the cam sensor and post in a little bit.
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 11:06 AM
  #17  
tfunk88's Avatar
tfunk88
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,480
Likes: 161
From: West by God Virginyuh
Originally Posted by bismic
From what Ed told me, a failing FICM can cause a no-start when hot, but resume its normal function with only just a little cooling. Also, I have a very lightly used FICM (International) that I want to sell. Only been used as a troubleshooting spare. PM me if you are interested.
PM sent! And I sent it to you and hopefully I’m at enough characters now
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 11:17 AM
  #18  
tfunk88's Avatar
tfunk88
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,480
Likes: 161
From: West by God Virginyuh
Originally Posted by bismic
From what Ed told me, a failing FICM can cause a no-start when hot, but resume its normal function with only just a little cooling. Also, I have a very lightly used FICM (International) that I want to sell. Only been used as a troubleshooting spare. PM me if you are interested.
Yeah, I figure it prob has something to do with letting it cool a bit. Yesterday it took about 20 min with the hood open. The not having cam sync leads me to the cam sensor, correct?
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 11:20 AM
  #19  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,881
Likes: 3,595
Club FTE Gold Member
Not necessarily. Cam/crank sync normally comes from the crank sensor (as does the engine rpm signal). FICM sync normally comes from the cam sensor (or from within the FICM itself).

Unfortunately I am not sure how concrete these "normally's" are.
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 11:27 AM
  #20  
tfunk88's Avatar
tfunk88
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,480
Likes: 161
From: West by God Virginyuh
Originally Posted by bismic
Not necessarily. Cam/crank sync normally comes from the crank sensor (as does the engine rpm signal). FICM sync normally comes from the cam sensor (or from within the FICM itself).

Unfortunately I am not sure how concrete these "normally's" are.
Dangit! Why can’t this be easy??? 😜

A cam sensor is $50 and doesn’t look difficult to do, so I’m gonna put one in this afternoon. The one that’s in there is just over 4 years old. Hopefully that takes care of it! If not I’m thinking FICM
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 11:28 AM
  #21  
xcrsp440's Avatar
xcrsp440
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 94
Our 6.0 was similar. When warm it would not show FICM sync until it cooled. Also had a code for cam sensor, so we replaced it. Worked fine for a few months then it started again, and at that time also replaced the pigtail. No problems since that time.
But on a side note, we had starter failures that occurred at about the same time as the sync issues. We didn’t confirm starter rpm, but wonder if the starters were beginning to fail and cranking too slowly to get sync?
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 11:42 AM
  #22  
bismic's Avatar
bismic
Fleet Owner
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 27,881
Likes: 3,595
Club FTE Gold Member
Nice post xcrsp440. It would be good for him to closely inspect the cam sensor wiring harness and connector.
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 12:04 PM
  #23  
tfunk88's Avatar
tfunk88
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,480
Likes: 161
From: West by God Virginyuh
Originally Posted by xcrsp440
Our 6.0 was similar. When warm it would not show FICM sync until it cooled. Also had a code for cam sensor, so we replaced it. Worked fine for a few months then it started again, and at that time also replaced the pigtail. No problems since that time.
But on a side note, we had starter failures that occurred at about the same time as the sync issues. We didn’t confirm starter rpm, but wonder if the starters were beginning to fail and cranking too slowly to get sync?
Thanks for the info! Mine is cranking at close to 200rpm, so I’m leaning towards cam sensor/FICM issues
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 12:04 PM
  #24  
tfunk88's Avatar
tfunk88
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,480
Likes: 161
From: West by God Virginyuh
Originally Posted by bismic
Nice post xcrsp440. It would be good for him to closely inspect the cam sensor wiring harness and connector.
Will definitely take a close look at the pigtail to see if it’s oil soaked or any damage
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 02:10 PM
  #25  
xcrsp440's Avatar
xcrsp440
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 94
There is a good write up someplace on this site on replacing that pigtail. It is foil shielded and isn’t just a snip and replace chore. A bit more work on it.
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 02:38 PM
  #26  
tfunk88's Avatar
tfunk88
Thread Starter
|
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,480
Likes: 161
From: West by God Virginyuh
Originally Posted by xcrsp440
There is a good write up someplace on this site on replacing that pigtail. It is foil shielded and isn’t just a snip and replace chore. A bit more work on it.
It’s ALWAYS a bit more work when it’s something I have to do... 😂
 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 08:58 PM
  #27  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,824
Likes: 3,104
From: Jersey Shore
You can use aluminum foil to replace shielding if needed. It needs to contact the original shielding, though.

When building custom audio power cables, I used heat shrink tubing with an aluminum coating on the inside. It shields quite well.




 
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2020 | 09:35 PM
  #28  
xcrsp440's Avatar
xcrsp440
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,343
Likes: 94
Found the write up
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...placement.html

And the cam sensor replacement is fairly simple, but ours was a real problem. The bolt head is 10mm and rounded off on the initial attempt to unscrew it. Make sure you use a good 6point socket.
We finally got it out by whacking it loose with a long bladed screwdriver against the bolt edge and hammering on it.
 
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2020 | 04:24 AM
  #29  
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Fleet Owner
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 27,307
Likes: 549
From: Spanaway
Ed had an exchange program that is for people that can't be without there truck.

 
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2020 | 07:16 AM
  #30  
Hartwig's Avatar
Hartwig
Cargo Master
Photogenic
Shutterbug
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 2,808
Likes: 1,895
From: unfortunately Germany
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by xcrsp440
Found the write up
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...placement.html

And the cam sensor replacement is fairly simple, but ours was a real problem. The bolt head is 10mm and rounded off on the initial attempt to unscrew it. Make sure you use a good 6point socket.
We finally got it out by whacking it loose with a long bladed screwdriver against the bolt edge and hammering on it.
I would not only solder. For such jobs there are crimp connectors that solder automatically when heated and seal the ends with glue.
The connectors are first crimped and then heated with a hot air dryer.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:55 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE