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Old Dec 31, 2019 | 03:48 PM
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E4od problems

I have a 1990 460 bbf backed up by an e4od trans this was a swap into an 88 so I had to buy a b&m ratchet shifter and a b&m shift linkage kit I have it installed and my neutral safety switch won't line up in neutral but it will when in reverse position any ideas on where I went wrong ??? Haven't drove the truck on the road in a long time cause I had nss just hanging to the side so it could start and move but I would like to have my overdrive back so I can get on the road
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Old Dec 31, 2019 | 04:34 PM
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Shifter in neutral and trans also in neutral and the cable won’t attach? Sounds like the cable needs to be adjusted.

I'm a bit confused by the need for the B&M ratchet shifter. Did the truck previously have a manual transmission? If so, how are you controlling the E4OD?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2019 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
Shifter in neutral and trans also in neutral and the cable won’t attach? Sounds like the cable needs to be adjusted.

I'm a bit confused by the need for the B&M ratchet shifter. Did the truck previously have a manual transmission? If so, how are you controlling the E4OD?
Yes truck was an original 5 speed I bought a whole donor truck so I have all correct harness to control trans and shifter at the moment is not hooked connected but when trans is in neutral the neutral safety switch doesn't line up at all but move trans into reverse and nss lines up perfect and the linkage arm only goes in one way I can't even bolt the switch down when it's in neutral
 
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Old Dec 31, 2019 | 06:27 PM
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Don't know if it applies to your issue or not, but I have a Hurt Quarter Stick shifter on my E4OD and had to fab up/mod the cable brackets to get it work.




 
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Old Dec 31, 2019 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Briansshop
Don't know if it applies to your issue or not, but I have a Hurt Quarter Stick shifter on my E4OD and had to fab up/mod the cable brackets to get it work.



I was thinking I was going to need to do something similar if my bracket from linkage to shifter cable was shifted over one gear it would all work flawlessly
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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 12:16 PM
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If I try to adjust by the time it's lined up my bolt holes are way off
 
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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 12:18 PM
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Lines up perfect one gear over in reverse though
 
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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 02:46 PM
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There's no adjuster in the aftermarket cable that comes with the shifter? On the oem cable,there's a white plastic clip that you pull out,adjust the cable where you need it so your shift lever lines up with your column indicators,then you re-insert the clip once you have it where you need it.It's located right down by the shift linkage on the factory cable,where the cable mount bolts to the trans.

Yeah, here ya go;

So install your range sensor/MLPS like you show properly with those lines matched and install the two bolts and snug that down (with trans shifted into N). Then ignore the fact that you have an electrical sensor installed and follow his video.
 
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
There's no adjuster in the aftermarket cable that comes with the shifter? On the oem cable,there's a white plastic clip that you pull out,adjust the cable where you need it so your shift lever lines up with your column indicators,then you re-insert the clip once you have it where you need it.It's located right down by the shift linkage on the factory cable,where the cable mount bolts to the trans.

Yeah, here ya go;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH5iurkxpoE

So install your range sensor/MLPS like you show properly with those lines matched and install the two bolts and snug that down (with trans shifted into N). Then ignore the fact that you have an electrical sensor installed and follow his video.
The cable linkage hooked up fine I have no problems hooking it up properly and shifting through all gears it's all b&m with adjustments which Is all set up where I need it. The problem is that my two marks on nss do not line up when in neutral once switch is on it won't start in park or neutral I don't have enough wiggle room in the switch for the marks to line up when it's in neutral by the time I get the marks lined up the the bolt holes are way off.
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Oh I see. So maybe your just thinking the trans is in N position when it's really in R position is my guess. You can unhook everything and start over.
Unbolt the range sensor and remove it. Shift the lever into park (making sure to move the lever into the correct position, not into 1st) Hopefully you're on level ground with the wheels chocked and or at least the e-brake set.With it shifted into what you think is park,rock the truck back and forth to see if the truck can roll wit hthe e-brake off and wheel chocked moved away from wheels a bit.If your in 1 then go the other way lol.Shift the trans lever back a click from P into R then another into N.With the range sensors marks lined up,now install the sensor and bolt it down, then install your shift cable and adjust as needed to line up with your shifter.

Well,this kinda sorta shows the basic principle even though it's not exact trans and sensor so;



Not a E4OD either but here's another if you rather;
 
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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FORDF250HDXLT
Oh I see. So maybe your just thinking the trans is in N position when it's really in R position is my guess. You can unhook everything and start over.
Unbolt the range sensor and remove it. Shift the lever into park (making sure to move the lever into the correct position, not into 1st) Hopefully you're on level ground with the wheels chocked and or at least the e-brake set.With it shifted into what you think is park,rock the truck back and forth to see if the truck can roll wit hthe e-brake off and wheel chocked moved away from wheels a bit.If your in 1 then go the other way lol.Shift the trans lever back a click from P into R then another into N.With the range sensors marks lined up,now install the sensor and bolt it down, then install your shift cable and adjust as needed to line up with your shifter.
I have already disassembled the whole thing put it back together I am in the right gear looking at it from the driver side of the truck the shift lever is point left and down slightly them P R N I have even gone all the way back to first and moved up in gears 1 2 D-overdrive N R P I don't know if this will make sense but it's like it's off a gear or something like I said I could bolt down the switch with marks lined up perfect in R but if it's in N with the marks lined up the switch isn't in right position to bolt in
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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 03:55 PM
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This is in neutral with marks in line I'm sure this is neutral I have rolled the truck but as you can see my bolt holes are way off now say I put the bracket on for the shift linkage and shifted it into reverse the holes line up perfect.
 
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I have already disassembled the whole thing put it back together I am in the right gear looking at it from the driver side of the truck the shift lever is point left and down slightly them P R N I have even gone all the way back to first and moved up in gears 1 2 D-overdrive N R P I don't know if this will make sense but it's like it's off a gear or something like I said I could bolt down the switch with marks lined up perfect in R but if it's in N with the marks lined up the switch isn't in right position to bolt in
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Just to be sure...Park is when the shaft is turned full clockwise looking at it from the driver's side.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Briansshop
Just to be sure...Park is when the shaft is turned full clockwise looking at it from the driver's side.
Yes looking at it from driver side with bracket on bracket will face down and to the left when in park
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Jarrard7 let me save u 6 moths

I have a 65f100 with a1990 460 e4od and a b&m megga and a 1990 wire harnis.
first thang first e4od combined with a mega ****er
Needs a extra b&m install kit
This kit is about $80 it includes
A bracit to mount cable
new shift slecter rod (the one that gos through the trans case and new **** lever to conect shift slecter rod at one end and cable at other end.
Will this help with your nns not lining up? No
But it will make ur detent I each gear super solid
And all linkage will fit and adgust easy.
now for the nss I had to cut the rear facing bolt hole out the bottom and tern the hole into a slot
When u cut the slot the nss will adjust but only the rear bolt will fit.
PS don't forget get to plug in your speed sensorOr truck won't shift
If switching form c6 to e4od u will need dme and harness even if truck was fuleinjected to start
 
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