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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 08:27 AM
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Flickering volt needle and headlights

Don’t drive my 84 much at night, still trying to work out bugs. I’d noticed volt meter needle ticking back and forth rapidly, at a nervous pace. Moving around yard at night, noticed the headlights have same nervous tic.
voltage regulator flying south?
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 08:43 AM
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Some kind of regulation problem obviously. Could be loose or corroded ground connections. Check voltage drop from alternator case to battery NEG post.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 06:12 PM
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You may want to read this thread.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...continues.html
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 06:34 PM
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My guess would be a loose connection at the alternator or a poor ground to the regulator mounting bolts. Seen both these scenarios cause it.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
You may want to read this thread.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...continues.html
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Are you trying to scare the poor guy? I’d specifically suggest NOT reading that thread. Eight pages of frustration, and still no voltage reading to show what is happening.

For this problem, I’d suggest taking a voltage reading at the battery while the fault is active. Also, add a ground wire between the alternator case, voltage regulator base, and the battery’s negative terminal. Inspect the wiring harness from the alternator output over to the starter relay, just aft of the battery.

Does the rate of fluctuation vary with engine speed?
 
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Old Nov 16, 2019 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Are you trying to scare the poor guy? I’d specifically suggest NOT reading that thread. Eight pages of frustration, and still no voltage reading to show what is happening.

For this problem, I’d suggest taking a voltage reading at the battery while the fault is active. Also, add a ground wire between the alternator case, voltage regulator base, and the battery’s negative terminal. Inspect the wiring harness from the alternator output over to the starter relay, just aft of the battery.

Does the rate of fluctuation vary with engine speed?
Maybe he should start at the last post and work to the first or what not to do for fixing it LOL
I was pointing out there are others with the same issue ....... yea that's it and I am sticking to it
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Old Nov 17, 2019 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Odisvan
Don’t drive my 84 much at night, still trying to work out bugs. I’d noticed volt meter needle ticking back and forth rapidly, at a nervous pace. Moving around yard at night, noticed the headlights have same nervous tic.
voltage regulator flying south?
The most likely culprits are a poor connection at the regulator. (Check to make sure the regulator's pins are clean and free from corrosion and the terminals in/on the connector have not gone south broken cracked/corroded). Bad regulator ground or the regulator has gone south, most have a cap in them to dampen the resonance in the sense circuit if it fails you can get pulsing. Regardless a quick check of wiring condition and connections should be looked at it. Can't say as I have seen a bad alt ground as the Alt just won't really function without good ground, but anything is possible.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 01:36 PM
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Well, I think I have a bad new battery. Not running, it’s all mildly free ranging. I know I’m over 55 but my hands aren’t shakey. Free ranging from 13.1 up to 13.4.
Truck running, volts at battery free ranging, or wandering, between 14.1 and 14.3 or 14.4 volts.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2019 | 01:37 PM
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So I think my battery may have internal short? The searching voltage not even running makes me think shorted battery?
 
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What voltmeter are using? When a modern DVOM internal battery gets weak (9 volt say) the voltage displayed can get wonky. Those battery voltages you mention look reasonable. I guess it's possible, but I'd try a different meter before condemning the battery.

A battery with a bad cell is characteristic at ~10.5 volts
 
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Originally Posted by Odisvan
Well, I think I have a bad new battery. Not running, it’s all mildly free ranging. I know I’m over 55 but my hands aren’t shakey. Free ranging from 13.1 up to 13.4.
Truck running, volts at battery free ranging, or wandering, between 14.1 and 14.3 or 14.4 volts.
Hmm, the plot thickens. You mentioned a new battery. Was it behaving like this with the old battery? If okay previously, my first thought is a wonky cable connection that was disturbed when replacing the battery.

As Tedster suggested, replace the meter's internal battery as a precaution. Then test the meter on another vehicle's battery.

The 13.1 - 13.4 you recorded at rest seems a bit high. Usually you'll see around 12.6 - 12.8 with a fully charged battery. With the engine off, turn on the headlights for about 30 seconds to burn off any surface charge. Then kill the lights and measure again. Take your readings right on the battery posts, not the cable terminals.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 06:00 PM
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Wanted to follow up, because I always appreciate the suggestions. New voltage regulator fixed my nervous tic in voltmeter and headlights.
 
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Wanted to follow up, because I always appreciate the suggestions. New voltage regulator fixed my nervous tic in voltmeter and headlights.

The dampening cap in the sense circuit in the regulator failed. Glad to hear you got it fixed.
 
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