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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 06:12 AM
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Destination fees

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2019/0...icking-up.html

Anyone taken the time to look at the destination fee on the window sticker? According to this article, it's up to $1500 for the F-series trucks now. Considering that it was $995.00 in 2012, that's a serious increase. It's not just Ford, it's all truck builders.

Sadly, with the increase in destination fees and the typical dealer doc fees that are charged, you're up to or over $2000.00 before you even get into the price of the truck.

So, if you don't like the fees then as I see it, you have two options for vehicle replacement:

1. Don't buy new vehicles

2. Figure out how to better negotiate the price of the truck to help offset the "non negotiable" fees.

In my case, I've established a goal of 200,000 miles for my truck. If achieved and at my current miles per year, I'll be in my 2011 truck for another nine years.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 10:39 AM
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At the same 200k miles I have 8 3/4 years left which isn't out of the ordinary for me (12 years total). I figure I'll buy a new truck and car right at retirement and those will outlast me.
By then those fee will probably have doubled.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2019/0...icking-up.html

Anyone taken the time to look at the destination fee on the window sticker? According to this article, it's up to $1500 for the F-series trucks now. Considering that it was $995.00 in 2012, that's a serious increase. It's not just Ford, it's all truck builders.

Sadly, with the increase in destination fees and the typical dealer doc fees that are charged, you're up to or over $2000.00 before you even get into the price of the truck.

So, if you don't like the fees then as I see it, you have two options for vehicle replacement:

1. Don't buy new vehicles

2. Figure out how to better negotiate the price of the truck to help offset the "non negotiable" fees.

In my case, I've established a goal of 200,000 miles for my truck. If achieved and at my current miles per year, I'll be in my 2011 truck for another nine years.
I wonder if buyers in Kentucky and Michigan are charged the same as buyers in other States.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 05:23 PM
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I suspect that the answer is "no" .
 
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 05:47 PM
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I wonder if buyers in Kentucky and Michigan are charged the same as buyers in other States.
$1595 for my 2019 built in Dearborn, MI and sold in Traverse City, MI.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 09:30 AM
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I wonder if buyers in Kentucky and Michigan are charged the same as buyers in other States.
I remember that many years ago they charged actual destination fees. Somebody decided that was unfair so they changed it to the same destination fee for everybody. Even if you pick up your vehicle at the factory you still gotta pay that fee.

https://help.edmunds.com/hc/en-us/ar...es-negotiable-
 
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That's why the dealer situation needs to go, order vehicles online like everything else. It's rather ridiculous in 2019 to still be expected to do the "dealer dance" of negotiating prices for the new vehicle and the trade-in and then try to negotiate out the bogus fees and charges
 
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I wonder if buyers in Kentucky and Michigan are charged the same as buyers in other States.
Yes they are.
 
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
That's why the dealer situation needs to go, order vehicles online like everything else. It's rather ridiculous in 2019 to still be expected to do the "dealer dance" of negotiating prices for the new vehicle and the trade-in and then try to negotiate out the bogus fees and charges
There's a couple of one price dealers in my area, the dance has stopped ( without a trade) but the fees still exist. I'm waiting for a fee to handle your trade.

They will charge what the market will bear and for what I can tell, the roads are flush with new vehicles.
 
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Originally Posted by tseekins
There's a couple of one price dealers in my area, the dance has stopped ( without a trade) but the fees still exist. I'm waiting for a fee to handle your trade.

They will charge what the market will bear and for what I can tell, the roads are flush with new vehicles.
We have that too... Autonation is one of the bigger “no haggle” dealers. Technically where I just got my 2019 F250 is a “low no-haggle” price dealer. You basically ignore the new price and adjust your trade in and negotiate the fees. Their asking price was nearly $5k under X-Plan as it was
 
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