cel comes on after about 6 miles then no power until it reaches 10 mph or 1500 rpms they happen about the same time. changed icp,ipr and cps with no change. any help will be appreciated. codes shown are 1282, 1209, and 1211

 

How is your oil level?

How many miles on your rig?

Sounds like high pressure oil is not adequate, possibly pointing to worn injector orings or weak HPOP.

Consider checking your fuel pressure as another data point.

Did you use Motorcraft ICP, IPR and CPS replacement sensors? We've had better luck with these OEM sensors.

 

thanks for your reply. 385k on the rig. yes I used ford parts. odd thing is,it runs good up to 45 mph, then I have to ease off accelerator for it to pick up speed, then at 60mph the pedal is dead until I let off again.

 

oil level is good

 

Here’s a list of codes if you don’t have them. Several things come to mind Fuel pressure inadequate at high rpm’s (fuel pump) or faulty throttle position sensor.



KOEO = KEY ON ENGINE OFF

KOER = KEY ON ENGINE RUNNING


(P0106 OR P0107 OR P0108) = KOEO OR CONTINUOUS DTC
P0106=P0107=P0108 INDICATES BAROMETRIC PRESSURE SENSOR READINGIS NOT WITHIN SPECS.

(P0112 OR P0113) = DTC P0112 INDICATES THAT INTAKE AIR TEMP SENSOR SIGNAL CIRCUIT IS OUT OF RANGE LOW.
DTC P0113 INDICATES THAT INTAKE AIR TEMP SENSOR SIGNAL CIRCUIT IS OUT OF RANGE HIGH.

(P0117 OR P0118) = DTC P0117 INDICATES THAT ENGINE COOLENT TEMP SENSOR SIGNAL CIRCUIT IS OUT OF RANGE LOW.
DTC P0118 INDICATES THAT ENGINE COOLENT TEMP SENSOR SIGNAL CIRCUIT IS OUT OF RANGE HIGH.

(P0122 OR P0123) = DTC P0122 INDICATES ACCELERATOR PEDEL SENSOR CIRCUIT INPUT IS LOWER THEN EXPECTED.
DTC P0123 INDICATES ACCELERATOR PEDEL SENSOR CIRCUIT INPUT IS HIGHER THEN EXPECTED.

(P0196 OR P0197 OR P0198) = DTC P0197 INDICATES THAT ENGINE OIL TEMP SENSOR SIGNAL CIRCUIT IS OUT OF RANGE LOW.
DTC P0198 INDICATES THAT ENGINE OIL TEMP SENSOR SIGNAL CIRCUIT IS OUT OF RANGE HIGH.

(P0220 OR P0221) = NOTE;WHEN PERFORMING KOER SWITCH TEST WAIT 5 SECONDS AFTER PRESSING THE TRIGGER TO START TEST
BEFORE RUNNING THRU DRIVER-OPERATED CONTROLS.

(P0236 OR P0237 OR P0238) = POSSIBLE INCORRECT MAP SENSOR ON 1995-97 VEHICLES.DTC P0236-P0237-P0238 INDICATES
A TURBO BOOST SENSOR CIRCUIT AND PERFORMANCE CONCERN.

(P0261-P0284) = (WARNING)DO NOT PERFORM INJECTOR TESTS DURING ENGINE RUNNING!!!(HIGH VOLTAGE 115 VOLTS)
INJECTOR DRIVER MODULE IS CAPABLE OF DETECTING INDIVIDUAL INJECTOR SHORTS AND OPEN TO
EITHER GROUND OR BATTERY WHILE THE ENGINE IS RUNNING.

(P0340 OR P0341 OR P0344) = ENGINE TORQUE AND FUEL IS CONTROLLED AND DEPENDENT ON ENGINE SPEED. FUEL QUANTITY
IS DETERMINED BY ENGINE SPEED.

(P0380 OR P0381) = (WARNING)DO NOT PERFORM INJECTOR TEST DURING ENGINE RUNNING!!!(HIGH VOLTAGE 115 VOLTS)
KEY OFF DISCONNECT CONNECTOR AT VALVE COVER. MEASURE RESISTANCE AT EACH GLOW PLUG,
RESISTANCE SHOULD BE LESS THEN (5ohms).

(P0470-P0478) = (YOU NEED A SCANNER FOR THIS)

(P0503) = (YOU NEED A SCANNER FOR THIS)

(P0560 OR P0562 OR P0563) = NOTE; DTC P0563 MAY BE A TEMPORARY CONDITION WITH A 24v JUMP START.
DTC P0562 MAY BE A TEMPORARY CONDITION AT CRANK WITH LOW BATTERYS.

(P0566 OR P0567 OR P0568 OR P0569) = (YOU NEED A SCANNER FOR THIS)

(P0571 OR P0703) = (YOU NEED A SCANNER FOR THIS)

(P0603) = CONTINUOUS DTC P0603 INDICATES PCM HAS EXPERIENCED A POWER INTERRUPT IN KAM CIRCUIT.

(P0605) = EXISTS ONLY WHEN THERE HAS BEEN AN INTERNAL FAILURE OF PCM. RERUN SELF-TEST. IF DTC P0605 IS
RETRIEVED SUSPECT FAULTY PCM.

(P0606) = EXISTS ONLY WHEN THERE HAS BEEN AN INTERNAL FAILURE OF PCM.(NOTE)IF DTC P0606 IS RETRIEVED WITH
OTHER DTCs,SERVICE ALL OTHER DTCs.

(P0704) = (YOU NEED A SCANNER FOR THIS)

(P0705-P0707 OR P0708) = CONTINUOUS DTCs P0705-P0707-P0708 INDICATES (MLP) CIRCUIT VOLTAGE WAS BELOW
ALLOWED MINIMUM SPECS.

(P0712 OR P0713) = DTC P0712 INDICATES TRANS FLUID TEMP (TFT) SENSOR INPUT BELOW MIN VOLTAGE
DTC P0713 INDICATES (TFT) SENSOR INPUT IS ABOVE MAXIMUM ACCEPTABLE VOLTAGE.

(P0751 OR P0752) = KOER OR CONTINUOUS DTC P0751 INDICATES (SS1) PERFORMANCE MALFUNCTION.
POSSIBLE CAUSES ARE:FAULTY HARNESS CONTINUITY,FAULTY SOLENOID OR HARNESS.

(P0781 OR P0782 OR P0783) = CONTINUOUS DTC P0781 INDICATES GEAR# INCORRECT RATIO. POSSIBLE CAUSES ARE:
INTERNAL TRANS PROBLEM,FAULTY SHIFT SOLENOID,FAULTY PCM.SOLENOID CIRCUIT OPEN
OR SHORTED TO V-POWER OR GND, V-POWER CIRCUIT OPEN OR SHORTED.

(P01184) = INDICATES THAT ENGINE OIL TEMP IS NOT WARM ENOUGH TO PERFORM KOER CYLINDER CONTRIBUTION SELF-TEST.

(P1209 OR P1211) = CONTINUOUS DTC P1209 & P1211 INDICATES THAT INJECTOR CONTROL PRESSURE WAS ABOVE OR BELOW
DESIRED LEVEL UNDER NORMAL DRIVING CONDITIONS.

(P1210 OR P1212) = KOEO P1210 OR P1212 INDICATES INJECTOR CONTROL PRESSURE SIGNAL VOLTAGE WAS GREATER THEN
EXPECTED.

(P1218 OR P1219) = CONTINUOUS DTC P1218 IS SET WHEN THE CYLINDER IDENTIFICATION CIRCUIT IS INTERMITTENTLY
SHORTED TO POWER.
CONTINUOUS DTC P1219 IS SET WHEN THE CYLINDER IDENTIFICATION CIRCUIT IS INTERMITTENTLY
SHORTED TO GROUND.

(P1247 OR P1248) = POSSIBLE INCORRECT MAP SENSOR ON 1995-97 VEHICLES.

(P1280-P1281-P1282-P1283-P1284) = KOEO OR CONTINUOUS DTC INDICATES INJECTOR CONTROL SIGNAL CIRCUIT OUT OF
RANGE LOW WAS DETECTED.

(P1291 OR P1292) = (WARNING)DO NOT PERFORM INJECTOR TEST DURING ENGINE RUNNING!!!(HIGH VOLTAGE 115 VOLTS)

(P1218 OR P1219 OR P1298 OR P1667 OR P1668) = THESE DTCs INDICATE THAT PCM HAS DETECTED A CONCERN NO CID
LINE.POSSIBLE CAUSES ARE:FAULTY PCM OR IDM,OR OPEN OR
GROUNDED CIRCUIT.

(P1316) = INDICATES THAT IDM DTCs ARE STORED IN IDM.

(P1391 OR P1393 OR P1395 OR P1396 OR P1397) = DTCs P1391 & P1395=RIGHT BANK.
DTCs P1393 & P1396=LEFT BANK. CHECK RESISTANCE OF GLOW PLUG
RELAY,SHOULD BE ABOUT 1.0 TO 8.0 OHMS;

(P1464) = INDICATES THAT A/C WAS ON DURING KOER CYLINDER CONTRIBUTION SELF-TEST.

(P1531) = (YOU NEED A SCANNER FOR THIS)

(P1536) = IS SET WHEN PCM DOES NOT SEE PARKING BRAKE APPLIED STATE CHANGE DURING KOER.

(P1660 OR P1661) = INDICATES THAT OUTPUT CIRCUIT CHECK IS HIGH OR LOW.POSSIBLE CAUSES ARE:HIGH SYSTEM
VOLTAGE, VREF CIRCUIT FAULT;

(P1662) = IS SET WHEN A FAULT IS DETECTED ON IDM-EN CIRCUIT.POSSIBLE CAUSES:OPEN IDM-EN CIRCUIT,BLOWN MAXI FUSE.

(P1663) = INDICATES A FAILURE ON THE FUEL DELIVERY COMMAND SIGNAL LINE.

(P1668) = INDICATES A PCM-IDM COMMUNICATION ERROR ON EF LINE.

(P1700 THROUGH P1999) = ARE TRANSMISSION CODES

((TRANSMISSION CODES))

P1702-P1704-P1706 = INDICATES DIGITAL TRANS RANGE SENSOR INTERMITTENT SIGNAL

P1711 = (KOEO-OR-KOER) INDICATES (TFT) SENSOR INPUT OUT OF RANGE

P1713 = DURING (KOEO-KOER) OR CONTINUOUS INDICATES (TFT) CIRCUIT INPUT IS BELOW ACCEPTABLE
VOLTAGE

P1728 = INDICATES INTERNAL TRANS SLIPPAGE

P1740 = INDICATES (TCC) SIGNAL ERROR

P1744 = INDICATES (TCC) SYSTEM PERFORMANCE ERROR

P1746-P1747 = INDICATES (EPC) SOLENOID OPEN CIRCUIT LOW INPUT

P1748 = INDICATES ELECTRONIC PRESSURE CONTROL ELECTRICAL FAULT

P1754 = INDICATES (CCS) ELECTRICAL MALFUNCTION

P1760 = INDICATES (EPC) SOLENOID CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT SHORT

P1779 = (KOEO-KOER) INDICATES TRANS CONTROL INDICATOR LAMP CIRCUIT FAULT

P1780 = INDICATES TRANS CONTROL SWITCH NOT CYCLED DURING TEST

P1781 = INDICATES 4X4L SWITCH FAILURE EITHER OPEN OR SHORTED

P1783 = INDICATES TRANS OVER HEAT CONDITION

P1784 = INDICATES INTERNAL TRANS MECHANICAL FAILURE IN FIRST & REVERSE

P1785 = INDICATES INTERNAL TRANS FAILURE IN 1st & 2nd

P1900 = (KOER) INDICATES FREQUENCY OR VOLTAGE OF THE (OSS) IS INTERMITTENT OR INSUFFICIENT

P1901 = (KOER) INDICATES FREQUENCY OR VOLTAGE OF THE (TSS)IS INTERMITTENT OR INSUFFICIENT

 

the truck radiator hose broke and it got hot quick but it didn't drive bad until the next morning so I was trying to figure it was heat related. when it drops a gear (automatic transmission) it takes off like there is no problem whatsoever then it hits the right speed for gear change and it bogs down again

 

Seems like we need to see what the fuel pressure is doing, as well as ICP and IPR duty cycle % during those times it bogs down. Can you set up Torque Pro on your phone or tablet and monitor ICP and IPR? OBDII Tools link has more info in my signature. Fuel pressure will need a physical gauge.

Is the fuel filter clean?

 

Yes filter is clean but wondering about the screen in the tank and fuel pump. I don’t know how to set torque pro but will look it up thanks for the reply

 

The list of DTCs relating to our trucks that John posted above would be handy to have in the Tech Folder. I looked but didn't see it.

 

@stinson 108-1 The codes are handy to have in the 7.3L PSD Tech Folder and are already there. They are under the header Misc Information & Modifications and then OBDII codes.

Direct link - https://www.superdutypsd.com/ford-su...bdii-codes.php

When inserting the the links and attachments in the folder, I always tried to give credit to the original post author or website creator.

Thank you for the suggestion though on adding them to the 7.3L PSD Tech Folder, keep the suggestions coming.