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Old Oct 9, 2019 | 06:34 PM
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I changed the transceiver and no luck. My next options are change the starter, and batteries....."is anybody out there"

Maybe some 7.3L's are never meant to restart
If the engine turns over then it's almost certain the batteries and starter are good enough for the task. Earlier I suggested you use a Bluetooth obd2 dongle and the torque pro app to do some monitoring. You haven't said anything about it so I'm assuming you haven't still. Ever since then throwing parts at the truck hasn't made it start. There are issues this engine can have that render it useless but won't set a code. You need to monitor the engine to understand what it's doing or not doing.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2019 | 07:17 PM
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How strong is it cranking? Sound robust, or is it labored like the batteries might be weak?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by oharal
If the engine turns over then it's almost certain the batteries and starter are good enough for the task.
What is the battery voltage while the engine is cranking?

I've had engines crank and sound like they are cranking fast enough to start. But the battery voltage was too low and the computer hadn't powered up, so no fuel was injected and no start was going to happen.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 06:03 PM
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What is the battery voltage while the engine is cranking?

I've had engines crank and sound like they are cranking fast enough to start. But the battery voltage was too low and the computer hadn't powered up, so no fuel was injected and no start was going to happen.
What is the voltage supposed to be? I'm dealing with a no start while cranking on one of my ex's and I've been wondering if it could maybe be something like this
 
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 09:06 PM
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I know you said you have rechecked the fuse area, but if it was me I would methodically recheck everything in the area you had disconnected in the column and under the dash while looking at the linkage.

Things can get nudged enough to unplug, or get forgotten, pretty easily while searching about under/in a dash.

If it worked before the looking around my guess would be in that area is where the problem is.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 08:13 PM
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Having a 7.3 that won’t start means you need help from
the diesel guys in the 7.3 forum.

for you to figure this out, we need to get some data from your PCM to understand what it’s seeing.

we need to know what you HPOP pressure is when craning. I believe minimum to start is 800 psi. We need to see the voltage drop when cranking, you need a minimum of 11.5 for the injectors to fire.

you need data from the CAM sensor, you need 600 rpms to start. We also need to know the IPR duty cycle.

we have some great no-start threads in the 7.3 forum. This is an engine electrical issue. It can be fixed!

One quick thing to try... pull the plug on the pressure sensor on the front of the drivers side head, it will tell the PCM to use known stock settings.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 08:18 PM
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for you to figure this out, we need to get some data from your PCM to understand what it’s seeing.
I've already explained this twice. Maybe you can help him.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2019 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesser02EX
Having a 7.3 that won’t start means you need help from
the diesel guys in the 7.3 forum.

for you to figure this out, we need to get some data from your PCM to understand what it’s seeing.

we need to know what you HPOP pressure is when craning. I believe minimum to start is 800 psi. We need to see the voltage drop when cranking, you need a minimum of 11.5 for the injectors to fire.

you need data from the CAM sensor, you need 600 rpms to start. We also need to know the IPR duty cycle.

we have some great no-start threads in the 7.3 forum. This is an engine electrical issue. It can be fixed!

One quick thing to try... pull the plug on the pressure sensor on the front of the drivers side head, it will tell the PCM to use known stock settings.
Originally Posted by oharal
I've already explained this twice. Maybe you can help him.
FYI, He has multiple threads going on this no start issue. One of the other threads was moved to the 7.3 section.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2019 | 11:07 PM
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The issue was a loose connection between the pcim and a tuner that the previous owner had installed. When I lowered the steering column I must have inadvertently caused it to become slightly unplugged. Thank you all for the input and help. If anyone else has a similar issue please feel free to contact me.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2019 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Swaybar1
The issue was a loose connection between the pcim and a tuner that the previous owner had installed. When I lowered the steering column I must have inadvertently caused it to become slightly unplugged. Thank you all for the input and help. If anyone else has a similar issue please feel free to contact me.
Ah good to hear it was an easy fix. One time I was towing my team's lemons racecar which is about 3500lbs on a heavy steel trailer with no trailer brakes and I got off the interstate on the ramp towards my destination which was an upward sloping clover leaf. I got to the top of the accel lane and my old crusty Banks chip fell loose from the PCM edge connector and the engine died which of course cost me my power brakes and power steering. Luckily the situation was not dangerous and I rolled onto the shoulder and ditched the chip. Had it happened 30 seconds sooner I would've been flying off the start of that clover leaf at 50mph with no power brakes or power steering at a loaded weight over 12k lbs...I don't use them anymore...
 
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