Oh yes, I believe it is a big no-no and would never recommend it on anyone else's vehicle but I just had to see if it was a fuel issue or something else.


So far I have not checked that. I don't know where I saw that if there was oil in the ICP that it could be bad but both ICP and IPR are a very expensive item so I want to make sure that either is the culprit before I go replacing part after part if that makes sense. It's just strange how this happened out of nowhere in the first place…

 

if the batteries, fuel pump, fuel filter, oil and fuel are all fresh and/or new....the next easy item is pull the allen bolt off the top of the HPOP reservoir to make sure I had oil prior to cranking. If it is present, then you need to see what the HPOP, ICP and IPR are all doing during cranking.

 

also, are you sure your starter is spinning fast enough? I had a bad cable between the battery and starter and I thought it was spinning fast until I replaced it...if you can come close to counting the revolutions on the starter it's moving too slow.

 

Very true. The cost adds up quickly if you are just throwing parts at it. I passed on a tip from @Tugly to use a compressed air can spray that will help with releasing a stuck IPR. IIRC, the location of the IPR is prone to collect a lot of dirt over the years and maybe causing that to stick.

^^^what he said^^^ Instead of your Innova hand held code reader, You might benefit by using an OBD reader in conjunction with Torque Pro ($4.99 on the android play store) with the extended Ford PIDs, OR, Forscan Lite (free on the apple store), OR, Forscan (free on a windows laptop) to start monitoring various sensors during the cranking cycle to help identifying other problems that might be contributing to the P1280. If all these pan out, then the next step would be to pull the IDM to check.

@Stewart_H You might want to move this thread back to the 7.3 Forum for some additional troubleshooting help since it is not a EX specific PATS issue that the OP originally suspected.

 

Look who's back!

Good looking out, Prakash. Thanks for the heads-up.

Stewart

 

Ok, so the p1280 error only came up when I disconnected the ICP (Injection Control Pressure Sensor). The error did go away when it was re-connected but there was oil in that sensor and I thought if that was present then it could be bad.

On another note I realize my Innovative 3030 may be antiquated so what apps can I look for (iPhone or iPad compatible) to either download or purchase. Also, which scanner would be helpful but not break the bank. I saw one, the MaxiDas but it was a tad pricey.

Then maybe I can get a better scan for more info.

Again : Batteries have been tested and are good. There is fuel in the bowl and filter is new. Oil is topped off and it cranks but no start.

 

Gravely tone; NOT working fine, probably air or some other issue with it. It should be a nice smooth consistent sound.

 

If there is fuel in the fuel bowl, then it should fire and sputter...even with low fuel pressure. If it’s turning over fast, and not cranking, at this point check the HPOP fill level and then i would suspect an IPR or HPOP issue. Even with the ICP unplugged the computer will default to a default reading that will allow you crank

 

Forscan is the preferred software for the iOS devices. Make sure to read their website and get the appropriate Wi-Fi adapter. The software is free. The adapter is less than $20. If you decide to run this free software on a windows laptop, then you can also get a wired OBD II reader (USB) that works well.

Torque Pro is the preferred software for the Android devices. This works with Wi-fi and Bluetooth adapters.

Search on this forum and there are some good write ups of how to put these tools to good use.

 

Your no-start gremlin was reportedly seen hanging out near the steering column. Links in my signature help out with a fully-assembled truck, but first you need to figure out what happened here.

Is this a no crank, or crank but no start? Do you have a video of the cranking put on YouTube so we can hear how it sounds?

 

There is fuel in the bowl but it doesn't fire and sputter. When the ICP was disconnected it would allow me to crank it but it wouldn't start.

 

Pull the hex plug on top of the HPOP, make sure you have oil about 1" from the top. If that is good, then you likely have an IPR or HPOP issue but we can't tell that without knowing the readings of everything during cranking.

Remind me how all of this got started....was it running fine prior to the assumed PATS issue?

 

Fuel in the bowl doesn't guarantee air free fuel pressure, and from memory he said there was fuel in it, but didn't state that it was full. Maybe it's not a fuel problem, but a pump that's sounding funny along with a no-start shouldn't be ignored, especially when so many other things seem to be ok.

With the pump running open the filter drain valve a little and see if you get a strong shot of fuel and verify that the fuel doesn't look foamy. If there's any doubt loosen the filter lid and verify that it's full and not just a little fuel in it....after turning the key off. I ran out of fuel unexpectedly, broken pick-up foot, and while it would sometimes spit & sputter, some cranks it did nothing. After having had stuff apart a few times I've learned that once the system has air in it it can take a LONG time to get out, but if it's only a little air it's usually not a big deal.

Torque pro will let you see lots of stuff while cranking and I think it's only around $5, maybe $10. You'll also need an android phone, radio, or tablet and the OBD2 dongle. The dongle I see recommended most, and the one I use, is . There are youtube videos and plenty of writeups on how to set up TorquePro for the 7.3. If you happen to live in my area we can hook mine up to it, and/or AutoEnginuity, and see what it's doing.

 

Here is a video of me attempting to start excursion. Thank you for your help and let me know if you need any pictures or video of anything else.

 

Can anyone tell me what this part is for?