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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 08:08 PM
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1993 Interior Front Door Panel/Switches Interchangeability?

Anyone swapped interior door panels on older E series vans with newer model panels? I'm looking to replace the upper/lower door panes in my 1993 E350 and was wondering if those from a later model would fit and work. I'm mostly interested in the newer (better) switches. I'm sure the pigtails have changed, but I don't mind figuring out which wire goes where and splicing them in assuming that would work. I know some older switches were routed through relays where as some modern switches don't require them.
 
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Theoretically door shells from '92 through 2013 should be direct swaps as far as interior door panels. About 2005 E-Series began using the CAN-bus system of "modules" which did replace older style relays and current passing mechanical switches---probably about 2008 or '09 I'm sure the door switches for power windows and power door locks were fully part of the communication network where those "modules" were used extensively.

I would hazard a guess door panels up to model year 2007 would require the least amount of modification or more involved re-wiring the electrical connections.

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Old Jul 28, 2019 | 12:24 PM
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Theoretically door shells from '92 through 2013 should be direct swaps as far as interior door panels. About 2005 E-Series began using the CAN-bus system of "modules" which did replace older style relays and current passing mechanical switches---probably about 2008 or '09 I'm sure the door switches for power windows and power door locks were fully part of the communication network where those "modules" were used extensively.

I would hazard a guess door panels up to model year 2007 would require the least amount of modification or more involved re-wiring the electrical connections.

HTH
So if I'm looking for the bette rocker switches (front windows, door lock & power mirrors) with the least amount of work, I should be safest trying out anything prior 2005 meaning late 90's through early 2000's. Thanks! I'll start at the top and work my way down by ordering a used 2004 driver's side master control panel and if I can get that wired in to control the doors, windows & mirrors, I should be good to order the remaining bits to match. I see the potential to paying a lot of "stupid tax" on this one
 
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Old Jul 29, 2019 | 04:40 AM
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I'm still not sure exactly what year the E-Series received the last face lift/make over--the one with new dash board and front end sheet metal---2008 or 2009 IIRC---someone correct me there please.

Basically anything from 2007 back to 1997 would be what you're seeking I have a 2000 with transplanted 1997 door panels as well as a 2003 with stock PW/PDL/Mirror control switches. If its helpful I could post some photos for your reference.

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I'm still not sure exactly what year the E-Series received the last face lift/make over--the one with new dash board and front end sheet metal---2008 or 2009 IIRC---someone correct me there please.

Basically anything from 2007 back to 1997 would be what you're seeking I have a 2000 with transplanted 1997 door panels as well as a 2003 with stock PW/PDL/Mirror control switches. If its helpful I could post some photos for your reference.

Lemme know!
I suspect Ford changed a lot from 1993 to the next change in 1997 and my main concern would be attachment points where the panel bolts/clips into areas of the underlying inner door sheet metal. I suspect I would have an issue with the mirror inner protector as well as the inner door trim upper depending on how the 1997+ attaches. I'd hate to have you tear into your door panels, but perhaps you know this offhand ... does the 1997+ panels still come in 2 pieces? The 1993 has an upper and a lower that separate at roughly 3/5th upper and 2/5th lower when viewed complete ... almost 1/2 & 1/2. In the meantime, I've gotten on eBay and ordered a window/mirror master control for the driver's side to see if I can manage to get it working ... if so I plan on investigating the door panels further. Thanks for all your help, I greatly appreciate it!
 
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Color me embarrassed---I'd forgotten I'd created a how to on door panel removal some time ago. Here's what I posted in the Tech Folder: Door Panel Removal

The only real difference in the sheet metal shells from 2002 to 2003 is how the outside mirror mounting area was changed to accommodate the newer 4 bolt mirror bases. There might have been a similar change in the '96 to '97 years as the mirror bases changed then too. I'm working at a slight disadvantage in never having dealt with any door or body before model year 1997.

That link above might be helpful. I don't mind tearing into my own door panels---its almost like changing radio stations these days.

Lemme know!
 
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