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I know for sure that this has probably been cussed and discussed many times, so opinions are and if your annoyed by beating the same dead horse I completely understand, I have thick skin and can take the rude comments. But on the other hand if being cordial is your demeanor then recommendations will greatly be welcomed or just a link to a prior post will do, so here's my question...…………..I am thinking about leveling my 2019 Oil burner and I want to know the best route to take to get the best ride.
Mine is being installed next thursday. Carli is arguably the best ride out there for the money.
Good luck & be sure to update us when you decide!
I have gone this route, you will be very disappointed if you are expecting a better highway ride. I have gone the commuter 2.0 with add a packs only for carli to tell me you need smaller wheels with larger tires. So, I went 18" methods with 35" tires which improved a little but it was due to the tire/wheels not the carli suspension. I then upgraded to the full deaver packs which did not make much of a difference and my truck now has 2" of rake and carli says its normal to have 1 to 1.5" with their leveling kit and that my 2" is not that far off. Then carli said the full deavers only work with the Back Country shocks. So, I tried that with what I would call no improvement. Prior to carli I had the BDS 2" puck with the fox shocks on my stock wheels and tires and I would say highway it rode every bit as good as the carli setup. My trial and error advise would be save yourself a lot of money and just get the BDS leveling kit with the fox shocks and if you want a better ride change the wheel and tire size for more sidewall.
I have gone this route, you will be very disappointed if you are expecting a better highway ride. I have gone the commuter 2.0 with add a packs only for carli to tell me you need smaller wheels with larger tires. So, I went 18" methods with 35" tires which improved a little but it was due to the tire/wheels not the carli suspension. I then upgraded to the full deaver packs which did not make much of a difference and my truck now has 2" of rake and carli says its normal to have 1 to 1.5" with their leveling kit and that my 2" is not that far off. Then carli said the full deavers only work with the Back Country shocks. So, I tried that with what I would call no improvement. Prior to carli I had the BDS 2" puck with the fox shocks on my stock wheels and tires and I would say highway it rode every bit as good as the carli setup. My trial and error advise would be save yourself a lot of money and just get the BDS leveling kit with the fox shocks and if you want a better ride change the wheel and tire size for more sidewall.
Well shoot, want to sell me your full deavers? I'm planning to add those next.
To each his own on suspension & tires I guess. I've driven the carli pintop with full deavers on 37's (my dad's truck) and it's by far the best riding one ton truck I've driven on or off road. Don't get me wrong, it's still a truck and you still feel the bumps, but compared to my stock 2018 with heavy duty front springs the carli rides like a cadilac.
Tire size and air pressure. Makes a huge difference (even on a stock rig).
I'm with OP on this, more or less. I am scheduled for my first Travel Trailer (TT) trip next weekend (assuming my check engine issue is resolved and that I reach 1000+ miles) and would like to know what to expect as far as rear end sag.
I have a WD hitch (Husky...I know, it's lame, but it was free when I bought my TT last year). GVWR is 8500lbs on the TT. I don't travel with fresh water so there is no way my TT weighs more than 8000lbs. Best guess, I am around 7500lbs.
My 2019 F250 is an STX 4x4, with the Fx4 package.
I know the power is there, but I am curious about the rear end sag.
Last edited by Big Silver One; May 29, 2019 at 10:39 PM.
Reason: added truck year
I have gone this route, you will be very disappointed if you are expecting a better highway ride. I have gone the commuter 2.0 with add a packs only for carli to tell me you need smaller wheels with larger tires. So, I went 18" methods with 35" tires which improved a little but it was due to the tire/wheels not the carli suspension. I then upgraded to the full deaver packs which did not make much of a difference and my truck now has 2" of rake and carli says its normal to have 1 to 1.5" with their leveling kit and that my 2" is not that far off. Then carli said the full deavers only work with the Back Country shocks. So, I tried that with what I would call no improvement. Prior to carli I had the BDS 2" puck with the fox shocks on my stock wheels and tires and I would say highway it rode every bit as good as the carli setup. My trial and error advise would be save yourself a lot of money and just get the BDS leveling kit with the fox shocks and if you want a better ride change the wheel and tire size for more sidewall.
I have had the same experience. Some people act like Carli is some magical manufacture of the gold standard leveling kit. They simply match components together from other manufactures, slaps on the Carli name and marks the price up. Having used Carli, Readylift, Rancho and BDS, I will take a Readylift or BDS spacer kit all day long IF my overall goal is to simply gain 2in of height in the front end and maintain the same ride. I have, along with many friends have found a simple upgrade in shocks on these trucks will do wonders for the ride. Carli uses very nice components but the ride quality wasn't $1800 impressive.
Another issue I ran into (my personal set up) was when running a winch bumper. The Carli springs are rated a bit lower than the factory snow plow prep springs that I had in the previous truck. When I added the Carli kit, I did manage to gain the 2-2.5 in I was looking for. As soon as the bumper went on, I lost almost 2in of what I gained. I had called Carli previously and asked them what to expect for the loss before mounting and was told a maximum of .5 inches should be expected. I later swapped it out to a BDS spacer kit and only lost .5in going that route.
I have had the same experience. Some people act like Carli is some magical manufacture of the gold standard leveling kit. They simply match components together from other manufactures, slaps on the Carli name and marks the price up. Having used Carli, Readylift, Rancho and BDS, I will take a Readylift or BDS spacer kit all day long IF my overall goal is to simply gain 2in of height in the front end and maintain the same ride. I have, along with many friends have found a simple upgrade in shocks on these trucks will do wonders for the ride. Carli uses very nice components but the ride quality wasn't $1800 impressive.
Another issue I ran into (my personal set up) was when running a winch bumper. The Carli springs are rated a bit lower than the factory snow plow prep springs that I had in the previous truck. When I added the Carli kit, I did manage to gain the 2-2.5 in I was looking for. As soon as the bumper went on, I lost almost 2in of what I gained. I had called Carli previously and asked them what to expect for the loss before mounting and was told a maximum of .5 inches should be expected. I later swapped it out to a BDS spacer kit and only lost .5in going that route.
Yeah, I am several thousands in on this carli deal and my truck isnt even close to level anymore since switching to the full deaver springs. I was just blown away when they told me "you should have a 1-1.5" rake so the 2" is not that far off" I would love to come on here and say this is a magical system, but BDS was as good for much less!!
I agree. It's all about what you are trying to accomplish. We are happy with the way the SD rides and drive and we only want to level the ride height. This is why we just purchased the 2.5 inch Readylift kit.
I have had the same experience. Some people act like Carli is some magical manufacture of the gold standard leveling kit. They simply match components together from other manufactures, slaps on the Carli name and marks the price up. Having used Carli, Readylift, Rancho and BDS, I will take a Readylift or BDS spacer kit all day long IF my overall goal is to simply gain 2in of height in the front end and maintain the same ride. I have, along with many friends have found a simple upgrade in shocks on these trucks will do wonders for the ride. Carli uses very nice components but the ride quality wasn't $1800 impressive.
Another issue I ran into (my personal set up) was when running a winch bumper. The Carli springs are rated a bit lower than the factory snow plow prep springs that I had in the previous truck. When I added the Carli kit, I did manage to gain the 2-2.5 in I was looking for. As soon as the bumper went on, I lost almost 2in of what I gained. I had called Carli previously and asked them what to expect for the loss before mounting and was told a maximum of .5 inches should be expected. I later swapped it out to a BDS spacer kit and only lost .5in going that route.
Bingo! My experience as well. I didnt go that route on my 19 this time around for this very reason...
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