Overload springs - any value?
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Mountain Pass
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From: Vernon, Arizona
Overload springs - any value?
Is there any market for a set of overloads that came off my '64 F100? I have the spring packs and the frame bumpers, had to cut the U-bolts to get them off, but they are available from several suppliers. I'm loading up my scrap steel and wondered if these would be of any value to someone in the community, or just to put them in the scrap load.
Tuned
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Only my opinion, worth what you paid...
Even 'back in the day', something like this would only be worth anything IF you could find a person willing to go to the trouble of installing these himself, AND wanting them when you offer them up for sale.
Now, you have the fact that most of the trucks these would fit are not being used as trucks, they're 'show cars', and, as such, the owner probably does not want the deterioration in ride in addition to the trouble of installing them (which he probably won't, anyway).
Lastly, just because they are still on offer at a local parts emporium, does not mean that this will be an 'easy sell'. Parts stores are required to carry certain inventory, which, when/if it doesn't sell, is able to be sent back to the company by contract. Yup, some stuff you see 'on offer', never sells.
Long opinion, but it's mine. You'll have yours.
Cosmo
Even 'back in the day', something like this would only be worth anything IF you could find a person willing to go to the trouble of installing these himself, AND wanting them when you offer them up for sale.
Now, you have the fact that most of the trucks these would fit are not being used as trucks, they're 'show cars', and, as such, the owner probably does not want the deterioration in ride in addition to the trouble of installing them (which he probably won't, anyway).
Lastly, just because they are still on offer at a local parts emporium, does not mean that this will be an 'easy sell'. Parts stores are required to carry certain inventory, which, when/if it doesn't sell, is able to be sent back to the company by contract. Yup, some stuff you see 'on offer', never sells.
Long opinion, but it's mine. You'll have yours.
Cosmo
Mountain Pass
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Hey Lee, i'm in Phoenix too. I also have a set, off my 66 F100. I didn't even bother listing them for sale. Mostly for the same reasons as cosmo has mentioned. These trucks are being built these days for pleasure, not so much for work.
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Mountain Pass
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Thanks for the thoughts, I was kinda figuring that they weren't that desirable, but figured I would get some additional feedback. Made that mistake on parts from another project. Scrapped the bench seat frame from a car that looked like trash to me, but turned out were highly desirable to the restoration buffs for those vehicles. Didn't want to make that mistake again if there is someone who would want this sort of thing.
Interesting how Ford did them, they have a spacer between the normal springs and the overloads, so unless you actually loaded it up or hit a good bump, the everyday ride quality would not have been affected much. I've taken two leaves out of the main spring pack to soften up the ride with the explorer rear swap I did, plus I needed to minimize the drop generated by going over the springs with that conversion.
The pics show the way it was when I got the truck earlier this year, that is a lot of spring on a 1/2 ton... Apparently they did carry a camper on it at one time as there was a RV plug installed for power to the camper above the fuel tank fill.
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They are only worth anything if someone wants or needs them. Some may want to restore a 64 back to the way it came and are missing the overloads, they would be worth something to that guy. I restored mine close to the way it came from the factory. It was ordered with the overloads but they had been removed many many years ago to improve ride. Fortunately they were kept and they are back on the truck now.
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Mountain Pass
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Here is what I have.They do bolt to the
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I got to looking at your picture of the axle. Notice the difference in how the axle is mounted to the springs on your 64 and my 64
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Why do they need to be removed in the first place? They aren't hurting anything. With the right wheels and tires these trucks can carry quite a bit, good axles. The shackles and bushings are probably trashed by now though. While I might not want to add helper springs to a truck I can't see any benefit to removing them either since they are installed, just more work, and try to throw them away, might pull a muscle or something.
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Mountain Pass
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I took them off as I did an axle swap. The new axle went over the springs instead of under, so these would have put the truck almost on the ground.....I know some like that, but it wasn't for me. And like most, it's not going to really be used as a truck for hauling those kinds of loads.
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I would have thought factory overload springs had the frame pads bolted through the frame? These look like clamp on aftermarket pieces maybe.
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I also don't use my 65' for hauling. I also like a more softer ride, so I had a local place made me a set of factory spec 950 lb leafs made and installed a set of 2500 lb AirRide air bags with a dash controller. Just in case I 'do' need to carry something heavy.
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