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Old 03-30-2019, 02:46 AM
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I forget to specify a/t. (sigh)
D0AZ-7228-D .. A/T Shift Collar-Use with fixed steering column (no tilt wheel) / Obsolete ~ 2 available NOS

1980/81 F100/350 & Bronco // 1970/78 LTD/Grand Marquis / 1972/76 Thunderbird / 1974/76 Cougar / 1975/80 Granada/Monarch.
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E2TZ-7228-B .. A/T Shift Collar-Use with fixed steering column (no tilt wheel) / Obsolete ~ 3 available NOS

1982/91 F100/350 & Bronco.
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E2TZ-7228-C (replaced D4OZ-7228-A) .. A/T Shift Collar-Use with adjustable steering column (with tilt wheel) / Obsolete ~ 3 available NOS

1980/91 F100/350 & Bronco // 1974/76 Cougar/Torino/Ranchero / 1977/79 Thunderbird/Cougar/Ranchero & LTD II (not an LTD!).
 
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Old 03-30-2019, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
If the door lock cylinders match the ignition switch cylinder key, remove one of them, take it to a lock shop, the locksmith will cut you a new key.
If you have a door open, post #13 in this thread shows how easy it is to remove a a door lock cylinder:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-same-key.html

You don't have to even remove the inner door panel, it's that easy.

But if the ignition key is different than the door key, have you contacted a mobile locksmith? This would be way easier than having to use a controlled nuclear explosive charge to unlock the steering column sans key. Probably cheaper, too, versus tracking down some expensive obsolete parts.

A couple of years ago, I accidentally locked the key to my camper inside. A locksmith came to my place and unlocked the door in minutes. He only charged $45. If I had also needed a key, it would have been a little more. But even if you were charged $100, I bet the savings in aggravation alone would be worth it.
 
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This is the procedure in the factory manual if you do not have the key and have no way of getting the key;

Get a big screwdriver or chisel and a hammer

Carefully get the tip of the screwdriver or chisel behind the chrome part of the tumbler. Give it a couple of good smacks, the chrome piece will break off.

You will now have a gap all around where the key goes in and the column. Take a small tool of some kind, reach up in there and push down on the keeper pin to release the tumbler.

Then go to the store and buy a new tumbler and keys, all the stores used to carry them. I haven't checked lately though.
 
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Old 03-30-2019, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
If the door lock cylinders match the ignition switch cylinder key, remove one of them, take it to a lock shop, the locksmith will cut you a new key.

Pic: 21984 lock cylinder retained to the door with 22023 clip, retained to 22134 lock rod with 21952 nylon clip.

This may be my best choice.
I am thinking to have a tow truck move the truck 20' back to my driveway.
Then i will have more time to find a solution.
If i can take the door lock to get a key made i can avoid damaging my steering column.
 
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Old 03-30-2019, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hharvey
I am thinking to have a tow truck move the truck 20' back to my driveway.
Is this a level, hard surface? I've "walked" broken vehicles a short distance using a rolling floor jack. You may have to take a few bites. Lift the back end to move fore/aft. Position the jack sideways to take a "steering" bite. Obviously don't do any of this on a slanted surface because it could get away from you. Only lift an inch or so off the ground so you can quickly lower the jack as needed.
 
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Old 03-30-2019, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Is this a level, hard surface? I've "walked" broken vehicles a short distance using a rolling floor jack. You may have to take a few bites. Lift the back end to move fore/aft. Position the jack sideways to take a "steering" bite. Obviously don't do any of this on a slanted surface because it could get away from you. Only lift an inch or so off the ground so you can quickly lower the jack as needed.
Would have to take steering shaft loose from the gearbox and turn it but hand.
 
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Old 03-30-2019, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kramercd
Would have to take steering shaft loose from the gearbox and turn it by hand.

No, much simpler than that. You can "steer" without ever having to pivot the front wheels. It's more like aiming the entire vehicle, versus angling the front wheels for normal steering.

The easiest thing is leave the front wheels on the ground. Position the floor jack under the back end, as close to perpendicular to the centerline as possible. You can't get a full 90 degrees, but close enough. Lift the back wheels an inch off the ground, and push the bed sideways. You may have to take a few bites, but working this way, you can aim the entire vehicle in the direction you want. Sounds like a lot of work, but it goes quickly, especially with a helper or two.
 
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Old 03-30-2019, 01:03 PM
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No, much simpler than that. You can "steer" without ever having to pivot the front wheels. It's more like aiming the entire vehicle, versus angling the front wheels for normal steering.

The easiest thing is leave the front wheels on the ground. Position the floor jack under the back end, as close to perpendicular to the centerline as possible. You can't get a full 90 degrees, but close enough. Lift the back wheels an inch off the ground, and push the bed sideways. You may have to take a few bites, but working this way, you can aim the entire vehicle in the direction you want. Sounds like a lot of work, but it goes quickly, especially with a helper or two.
Yeah, I realized that after thinking about it some more. How about some of those car skates from harbor freight?
 
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Old 03-30-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kramercd
How about some of those car skates from harbor freight?
Uff dah! Of course that would work, too. I have a rolling floor jack, but not skates, so my past escapades were based on what was available at the time.
 
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Bill would know for sure but some years had a key code stamped on a lock cylinder. Then a dealer could cut a key based on the code. (If you can find a dealer with a key cutter)
Did this when I bought a 68 Galaxie at a police auction with no key.
 
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Update
I went to Napa and bought a new ignition cylinder with 2 keys.
While I was getting tools together to drill out the current one.
For some reason i thought i would try the new key in the old ignition.
The ignition turned the truck started and I was able to move it to my driveway.
The key only worked once I wish i would have switched to the new cylinder before i took the key out of the old one.
At least the truck is in my driveway now and i don't have to worry about getting it moved.
I may find the keys and not have to change the door locks and locking gas cap.
 
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:10 AM
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I found the keys.
I am happy that I did not start drilling the ignition out
And I have the gas cap key now as well.
 
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I found the keys.
I am happy that I did not start drilling the ignition out
And I have the gas cap key now as well.
Would have been more fun
 
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kramercd
Would have been more fun
I am not sure about that :-)
I know i need to replace the ignition cylinder anyway because the current one is sloppy.
 
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