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Old Mar 7, 2019 | 08:40 PM
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It may be that the 450-650 7.3s will be detuned for durability. Time will tell though.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2019 | 09:01 PM
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100% will be detuned in cab and chassis 250-750...the v10 is shockingly detuned in CC 288/424. however the 6.2 is an undetuned 385/430 but available only up to 350 drw?!?! eseries v10 has more power 305/420 less 4 ft/lbs
 
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Old Mar 7, 2019 | 09:47 PM
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100% will be detuned in cab and chassis 250-750...the v10 is shockingly detuned in CC 288/424. the 6.2 has 385/430 but available only up to 350 drw?!?! eseries v10 has more power 305/420 less 4 ft/lbs
There was quite a bit of discussion about this back in 2010 when the new engines were released. It started in the thread with Mike Harrison, the chief engineer for the 6.2 L engine. He explained the engines aren’t actually detuned, but are rated differently because of the different emissions standards for the cab/chassis trucks.

The engines are the same, and they all make the same amount of power. They just don’t look like that on paper. I can dig up references for this tomorrow if you like.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2019 | 10:57 PM
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 04:25 AM
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There was quite a bit of discussion about this back in 2010 when the new engines were released. It started in the thread with Mike Harrison, the chief engineer for the 6.2 L engine. He explained the engines aren’t actually detuned, but are rated differently because of the different emissions standards for the cab/chassis trucks.

The engines are the same, and they all make the same amount of power. They just don’t look like that on paper. I can dig up references for this tomorrow if you like.
Mr. Tom, is correct...

I read everything on this subject before purchasing a Ford Truck... I am a Chevy Car guy.. as my screen name said.
its back there... << Search >> is your friend..
start digging.. for a 8 to 9 year old thread....
 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom


There was quite a bit of discussion about this back in 2010 when the new engines were released. It started in the thread with Mike Harrison, the chief engineer for the 6.2 L engine. He explained the engines aren’t actually detuned, but are rated differently because of the different emissions standards for the cab/chassis trucks.

The engines are the same, and they all make the same amount of power. They just don’t look like that on paper. I can dig up references for this tomorrow if you like.
X2. In gas engines the C&C trucks hp and tq ratings are taken at a lower rpm than their pickup counterparts. The actual output is the same. Look at post 12 on this thread and you can see what I am talking about.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1448110-why-did-the-v10-hp-and-tq-drop.html
 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 08:36 AM
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Saw the engine in person yesterday at the Work Truck show in Indy. It's compact but definitely has big block proportions.


 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 10:04 AM
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I remember this thread well, we all learned a tremendous amount from Mr. Harrison. My old username was Crazy001 before it changed a few years ago, which is why the disjointed quotes. At the time I owned a 2008 6.4L F250… I miss that truck sometimes.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ml#post8815728
 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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which oil is recommended for 6.2? 7.3 has a 5w30 cap

so the cc has same tune and is capable of 362/457?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 11:12 AM
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2011-2015 is 5w-20 and in 2016 they switched to 5w-30.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2019 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by someday
which oil is recommended for 6.2? 7.3 has a 5w30 cap

so the cc has same tune and is capable of 362/457?
I can't speak to the tune, but physically the engines are the same. Without lowering redline, you can't really reduce power much with a tune and still maintain proper A/F ratio. So if they aren't 362/457, they should be very close.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2019 | 12:36 PM
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Saw the engine in person yesterday at the Work Truck show in Indy. It's compact but definitely has big block proportions.


Nice pics. Is it me or does that engine look really simple in design. Not like all the complicated systems in today’s engines. Maybe it’s misleading since it isn’t installed in a truck, but it looks like a motor from 20 years ago. I envision a ton of open space on the engine bay.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2019 | 05:26 PM
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Nice pics. Is it me or does that engine look really simple in design. Not like all the complicated systems in today’s engines. Maybe it’s misleading since it isn’t installed in a truck, but it looks like a motor from 20 years ago. I envision a ton of open space on the engine bay.
simple.. as its a dyno mule.... no accessories..
 
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Old Mar 9, 2019 | 07:56 PM
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simple.. as its a dyno mule.... no accessories..
Dude, that’s what they should call this motor. The Dyno Mule. Or maybe the Power Mule? Actually, just The Mule is perfect. If it lives up to our expectations.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2019 | 08:09 PM
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old guy here..

a "dyno mule" is an engine name for early production testing.. factory running a few engines for hundreds of hours on dyno's.
I have been in the industry for 50 years...
next step.. install it in a current production body.. for real ground testing...

OR
its a display engine.. no internal parts.. just a crankshaft

dude.

the official name is Development mule, shorted to dyno Mule

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_mule

have a nice read.
 
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