EBPV Operation Questions
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EBPV Operation Questions
I have a question. I had a break in my daily 7.3 driving for 1 year so my “ear” for all things 7.3 is a bit off. It has been cold here been 20 during the day, dropping to 0 or below at night. When is the EBPV supposed to work? Are there operational parameters? It seems the EBPV in my truck is workring too good. But maybe I am wrong. It has been snowing so speeds have been 60 or below. The exhaust has been hissing all the time. Only stops when I am off the throttle. As soon as I am back on the throttle it’s right back to hissing. I am wondering if I need to adjust it? Is it possible to adjust? Any thoughts or knowledge bombs would be appreciated.
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I believe that it's all temp based using your IAT vs EOT but I don't know what the triggering numbers are. Mine went out when the van turbo went in because it had to. So...until your oil temp reaches the necessary temp it will close. Under heavy fuel it should open up. And watch your EGT's while it's closed, they will climb.
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I have a question. I had a break in my daily 7.3 driving for 1 year so my “ear” for all things 7.3 is a bit off. It has been cold here been 20 during the day, dropping to 0 or below at night. When is the EBPV supposed to work? Are there operational parameters? It seems the EBPV in my truck is workring too good. But maybe I am wrong. It has been snowing so speeds have been 60 or below. The exhaust has been hissing all the time. Only stops when I am off the throttle. As soon as I am back on the throttle it’s right back to hissing. I am wondering if I need to adjust it? Is it possible to adjust? Any thoughts or knowledge bombs would be appreciated.
Here's the kicker though. On my 97 the function won't go away until EOT is ~175 degrees or above and if still driving, such as waiting for a light change and it drops below ~175 degrees the function continues If monitoring EOT and I see "say" 150 degrees, kill the engine and restart the function is disabled and never comes on during the rest of the driving cycle. On cold mornings it's hard to get that engine temperature up to that level.
I'm pretty much an expert on the 97 model EBPV system operation but not so much on my 99. You indicated the hissing sound which is probably the valve closing. Demand for more power by the foot should open the valve but this takes a few seconds due to the mechanical nature of the device, hard to do in snow and ice conditions. If you can monitor the EBP sensor data this becomes clear as you will see higher back pressures while driving, as much as 43 PSI. Usually when cruising it's in the upper 20's to mid 30's.
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I believe that it's all temp based using your IAT vs EOT but I don't know what the triggering numbers are. Mine went out when the van turbo went in because it had to. So...until your oil temp reaches the necessary temp it will close. Under heavy fuel it should open up. And watch your EGT's while it's closed, they will climb.
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Mark, I've never seen EGT's climb as boost is zero with higher EBPV pressure, cruising, if anything they go down. Somehow the PCM compensates fueling, don't have a clue how though. Of course this is stock injectors and PCM programming so anything else I'm sure it would affect what you indicated.
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My truck is an E99 with a 2001 engine. I just put the engine in July. I will check the tube again but it should good to go. By what you guys are saying it sounds like normal operation. I just don’t remember it functioning as much as it is now. It will stop on more moderate throttle but like mentioned it’s a little difficult on snowy roads.
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In answer to your adjustment question, there is an adjustment procedure that gets the EBPV preload within spec but it is done on the bench with a spring scale. When I replaced my turbo a few years ago I did the adjustment and although I seldom visit cold country, when I do the EBPV operation is great. It raises my idle soon after starting but doesn't seem to affect normal driving except for slightly reduced power, but I don't ever push it hard when it is cold anyway.
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Another possibility that I rarely see mentioned -- the actual EBPV can get stuck shut. It happened to me and I had no boost and no power. I had to disconnect the actuator rod and spin it with a vise-grip, and pull with considerable force to pull the rod out, and get the flapper open. I believe I used a piece of mechanic wire to tie the rod where it couldn't shut.
Eventually, I'll get a new non-EBPV pedestal but for right now it works. It must not happen very frequently because I never see it mentioned, but it is a possibility.
Eventually, I'll get a new non-EBPV pedestal but for right now it works. It must not happen very frequently because I never see it mentioned, but it is a possibility.
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My truck is an E99 with a 2001 engine. I just put the engine in July. I will check the tube again but it should good to go. By what you guys are saying it sounds like normal operation. I just don’t remember it functioning as much as it is now. It will stop on more moderate throttle but like mentioned it’s a little difficult on snowy roads.
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