Help on block identification
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Help on block identification
Howdy, I'm new to the "large truck" world, in that I have picked up a rebuilt engine that I would like to identify. It was a spare engine, setting on a shelf, in the event of breakdown during harvest of another Ford truck. It has sat for about 20 years, in a climate controlled building. The mechanic who did the rebuild couldn't remember just what size it is. It doesn't really make any difference to me, except that it would be nice to know. I have looked in all the normal places, and cannot find the block casting number. The date code is Dec 12, 1963. Following are a couple other numbers.
Intake manifold C9AE9425B 1969 passenger car 390
Water pump D2TE8505B 70's
Heads C4TE6090E 64 330
Question is, where might the block casting number be located, or is there another way to identify the size. I'm going to install this puppy in a 1958 Ford Fairlane. I've done FE swaps since the early 60's, but have never messed with an FT mill. This is a low budget project....
Intake manifold C9AE9425B 1969 passenger car 390
Water pump D2TE8505B 70's
Heads C4TE6090E 64 330
Question is, where might the block casting number be located, or is there another way to identify the size. I'm going to install this puppy in a 1958 Ford Fairlane. I've done FE swaps since the early 60's, but have never messed with an FT mill. This is a low budget project....
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On the FE engines where it often says "352" on the front just to the right (looking at the engine) of the front timing chain cover - on an FT engine there is often a mirror "105" in this location. See if there is anything in that location as another data point.
This is a picture of an NOS 427 side-oiler block C8AZ-6010-G (note cross-bolted mains and screw-in core plugs) but you can hopefully see the "352" cast into the front face of this block. See if you have a backwards "105" in roughly this same location.
Chad
This is a picture of an NOS 427 side-oiler block C8AZ-6010-G (note cross-bolted mains and screw-in core plugs) but you can hopefully see the "352" cast into the front face of this block. See if you have a backwards "105" in roughly this same location.
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I know the 330 2V M/D had the 352, then the 105, because this engine uses the 352/360 crank.
Dunno about the other FT's, but would assume it's the same.
The OP has another thread in this forum where he listed the intake/water pump/head numbers that I responded to.
I also suggested he ask further questions in the LARGE TRUCK forum, because more members will be found there that know about FT's.
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That would make it even tougher to help ID...lol.
Odd that my 427 block above has the 352 casting but is a D3AE-6010-AA engineering number with a late 1972 casting date.
The FTs used a different front cover and water pump, but you could swap the FE cover and water pump onto one, which was probably done in this case, too.
Measuring bore and stroke and checking the crankshaft markings might be the only ways to be sure, as is very common.
Chad
Odd that my 427 block above has the 352 casting but is a D3AE-6010-AA engineering number with a late 1972 casting date.
The FTs used a different front cover and water pump, but you could swap the FE cover and water pump onto one, which was probably done in this case, too.
Measuring bore and stroke and checking the crankshaft markings might be the only ways to be sure, as is very common.
Chad
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That would make it even tougher to help ID...lol.
Odd that my 427 block above has the 352 casting but is a D3AE-6010-AA engineering number with a late 1972 casting date.
The FTs used a different front cover and water pump, but you could swap the FE cover and water pump into one, which was probably done in this case, too.
Measuring bore and stroke and checking the crankshaft markings might be the only ways to be sure, as is very common.
Chad
Odd that my 427 block above has the 352 casting but is a D3AE-6010-AA engineering number with a late 1972 casting date.
The FTs used a different front cover and water pump, but you could swap the FE cover and water pump into one, which was probably done in this case, too.
Measuring bore and stroke and checking the crankshaft markings might be the only ways to be sure, as is very common.
Chad
I bought a couple of NOS 427 long blocks at a San Pedro boat shop auction, also got two wooden crates full of NOS parts. The price was right, to say the least.
The ad for the auction said..."several used engines and parts." The auctioneer didn't have a clue, neither did the deceased owners two daughters.
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Nice score there!
I've found that cosmoline on top of machined surfaces can start to resemble rust over time but typically cleans off just fine. It can make a new block look used, though, and the unsuspecting person might not know the difference.
Chad
I've found that cosmoline on top of machined surfaces can start to resemble rust over time but typically cleans off just fine. It can make a new block look used, though, and the unsuspecting person might not know the difference.
Chad
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