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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 09:09 AM
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4r100 compatibility

Just want to make sure all this information is accurate. Any gasser 4r100 is interchangeable (with modification of the pump) from 98 to 04. The diesel 4r100 is interchangeable regardless from 99-03 (mid year). 4wd to 4wd, 2wd to 2wd.

Just trying to make sure so I can widen my search for a transmission as much as possible. Truck to receive is a 2002 F350 4wd.

That is what I've gathered from my searching.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2018 | 07:02 PM
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A 4R100 from a 5.4L will bolt in place of a trans from a 6.8L. The problem comes in when you try to drive it. The 5.4L trans is not as strong as the 6.8L trans. A 6.8L will tear up a 5.4L trans in a very short time. A trans from a 6.8L will fit and work behind a 5.4L, but many of the shifts are going to be harsh because the trans has more capacity than the 5.4L needs.

You are correct on the 7.3L.

The exceptions are that the early '99 trans has a different solenoid pack, pump, and torque converter. It also doesn't have the two speed sensors, which the later control system MUST have for the trans to operate.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
A 4R100 from a 5.4L will bolt in place of a trans from a 6.8L. The problem comes in when you try to drive it. The 5.4L trans is not as strong as the 6.8L trans. A 6.8L will tear up a 5.4L trans in a very short time. A trans from a 6.8L will fit and work behind a 5.4L, but many of the shifts are going to be harsh because the trans has more capacity than the 5.4L needs.

You are correct on the 7.3L.

The exceptions are that the early '99 trans has a different solenoid pack, pump, and torque converter. It also doesn't have the two speed sensors, which the later control system MUST have for the trans to operate.
I have an early 99 6.8. Would I need to get another early 99, if I need to replace it?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 09:23 PM
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Yes, you would.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 12:01 PM
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Not relevant to the OP, but if this thread is found later in a search, this pertains to 2wd...

7.3L vans use the same 4R100 trans as 7.3L F250/350, BUT the tail shaft is different, smaller than the trucks. The sensors on the later ones may be in different locations, but will work, according to my trans guy. To put a van trans in a truck, you will need the correct slip-in yoak for the driveshaft.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 10:00 AM
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4r100 case compatibility

I have a 2003 F350 6.8L 4x4 that the bell housing cracked badly. I'm courious as my transmission had low mileage, an the insides are still in great shape. If I took any 4R100 case, wether it be from a Lincoln navigator or something. If i could put my parts from inside my trans an install them into the other vehicles 4R100. An still have just as strong as a transmission as before?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 08:44 PM
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Yes, you would. If the case has the modular engine bolt pattern, and not all 4R100s did, it will work. The only difference in the cases is the bolt pattern on the bellhousing.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tj kessler
I have a 2003 F350 6.8L 4x4 that the bell housing cracked badly. I'm courious as my transmission had low mileage, an the insides are still in great shape. If I took any 4R100 case, wether it be from a Lincoln navigator or something. If i could put my parts from inside my trans an install them into the other vehicles 4R100. An still have just as strong as a transmission as before?
Wouldn't it be more cost effective just to buy a new transmission case outright from Ford? I doubt very much that you are going to find anyone willing to cannibalize a used transmission, just to sell you the case.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 05:04 AM
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Wouldn't it be more cost effective just to buy a new transmission case outright from Ford? I doubt very much that you are going to find anyone willing to cannibalize a used transmission, just to sell you the case.

Theres a scrap yard near me that sells "re-buildable" transmissions for only $150. Just meaning the insides are worn out. An I figured after taking my transmission out I've noticed the cluthes an everything is in good shape still, just the case is now bad. An the scrap yard has a few transmissions from a navigator, an possibly from a excursion. To rebuild it it would only cost me about $400 in parts online. I just wasnt sure if I took a transmission from another rig an not a F250 or F350 just from like a navigator, as the bolt pattern is the same an it's a 4R100 trans to. I just wasnt sure if I'd still have the same pulling power, as I've heard just cause it's a 4R100 doesn't mean it would have the same pulling power behind it. As one from a F350.. just wasnt sure is all or if I was told false information. I figure if it was a 4R100 it would be the same transmission even if I was pulled from a F150 or F350
 
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 07:05 AM
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The clutches from a 5.4L 4R100 do not have as many plates as a 6.8L 4R100 would have. The cases are the same, but the internals are not.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2021 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
The clutches from a 5.4L 4R100 do not have as many plates as a 6.8L 4R100 would have. The cases are the same, but the internals are not.

Oh ok, thank you guys! I appreciate the information 😊 I'm definitely glad to know that switching the parts over is possible due to the cases are the same. I couldnt find the answer I needed else where,no matter how hard I searched.
 
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So an exoedition 4r100

So expedition 4r100 wouod work in superduty?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 08:04 PM
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A 5.4L Expedition 4R100 would work in a 5.4L Superduty. It would be torn to shreds behind a 6.8L, and it won't bolt to a 7.3L.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2022 | 09:05 PM
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i just hunting for core parts. i learned today some expeditions with e4od have speedo gear on outputshaft. ...and have a speedo gear sensor
 
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Truck to van?

I have a ‘99 E350 Super Duty 7.3L. We’re doing a Ujoint Offroad 4x4 conversion and I’m trying to figure out if I can take a 4x4 tranny from a Super Duty F250/350 and put it in the van with little to no modifications?
 
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