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Sep 9, 2018 | 09:17 PM

#31

Mkos1980

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I guess for me is that If I bought a new truck every 3-5 years, I don't think I would mind getting something new. For me who keeps their trucks 200K and 10-15 years I want to know I'll have zero issues (or minimal) issues.

Sep 9, 2018 | 09:29 PM

#32

jnuechte

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F150 10 speed didn't up any torque capability...

Sep 9, 2018 | 09:47 PM

#33

jnuechte

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blwnsmoke

Per Mark K, it is rated at 1,400 ft lbs after the torque converter, not nm. And the TC doubles it so it is 700ft lbs before it.

https://www.tfltruck.com/2017/08/202...140-f250-f350/

Sep 10, 2018 | 08:54 AM

#34

N2dunz

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I won't buy first year anything.
Look at every year with something new changed.
04, 08, 11..... no thanks.

Sep 10, 2018 | 09:32 AM

#35

George C

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jnuechte

https://www.tfltruck.com/2017/08/202...140-f250-f350/

So, “Fast lane” looks for a future tip to write about , and writes a small column that states zero power handling improvements were made, fresh off a multi million dollar collaboration between Ford and GM.
I’m not saying that the current rating isn’t the same, or they are wrong but I highly doubt that the guts aren’t designed and built to grow with the power ratings, and changed with a designation.

If I’m wrong, I guess Ford and GM will to go back to the drawing board starting this year to re-design, build and test the future transmission that will take future power and tow ratings for both GM and Ford trucks into 2030. I highly doubt that is the case..
I can bet you that Ford and GM didn’t take a side step when designing this unit.

Tow ratings, power and tq sell trucks. Tow ratings and tq will be on a steady increase in the future the same way that have grown in the past. Think about that.
You can make yourself feel more comfortable by defending your purchase using the chicken little analogy, but be honest with yourself, you will be all OVER checking out a 2020 when it hits the road.

Sep 10, 2018 | 09:57 AM

#36

Adam R

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When I've watched some full throttle 6.7 acceleration runs on youtube, I haven't seen the tach move more than 300 or so rpm between shifts. If it varies so little between shifts, is another 4 gears really necessary?

Also, if I remember correctly, a member on this board reported being in a pre-production Superduty back when the 2017's were just revealed and that vehicle had a 10 speed gear indicator. Perhaps this means the new 10 speed has been in testing for quite some time and will be delivered without any issues.

Sep 10, 2018 | 10:33 AM

#37

Jesse4812

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From: Kilgore, Texas

I wonder how much higher tow ratings can go for single rear wheel pickups with LT tires? The F-450 should be considered a class 4 truck but it's a class 3 because of insurance and registration purposes. The F-450 GCWR is over 40,000#s now and that's pretty much medium duty truck territory. The F-350 dually GCWR is only slightly lower than the F-450.

I'm having my salesman work up some figures on a '19 F-450 KR. I'll know in a few days what direction I will go. I definitely will trade by this time next year.

Sep 11, 2018 | 07:05 PM

#38

dieseldrive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blwnsmoke

Per Mark K, it is rated at 1,400 ft lbs after the torque converter, not nm. And the TC doubles it so it is 700ft lbs before it.

Also worth noting is that since the engine is torque limited in the lower gears, it is actually rare for the transmission to see full torque of the TC (1.9 times engine max). When the TC clutch is locked, there is no torque multiplication.