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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 08:57 AM
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Sorry about the bad luck. Might be time for a dash cam mod!
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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I've been thinking about the usefulness of a dash cam lately.

Talking about insurance payout limits. We did vehicle testing of experimental brake materials .... on public roads. It was bad enough that once someone finds out you're a large company, then you have a "mule" vehicle not in production yet or experimental axles installed in a production vehicle, lawyers tend to get wide-eyed. I did some work in the accident reconstruction field and once your policy is fully used up, then the plaintiffs can go for your assets. Also working with trucking companies trying to solve brake issues and learning what the value of a full trailer load of stuff is worth, got me talking to our insurance company about an insurance rider over and above our standard policy. It only cost us about $350 per year to get a $2mil rider over and above our standard policy for all three vehicles, and it also covers my motorcycle usage. Now you might say a motorcycle can do nothing to cost that much damage. By itself. Look at the chain reaction in Seans accident. Circumstances with a motorcycle or Honda Civic could cause multiple fatalities in a chain reaction, and if a tractor-trailer was in the middle of the chain reaction, either it's carnage or a million dollars of cargo going up would be paid by someone. And that trucking companies insurance company is going to look at who started the situation, innocent situation or not.

Just something to think about. For me the yearly cost was worth that, for insurance to protect our assets.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 10:35 AM
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Sorry to see that. Hope all work out well soon.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 04:12 PM
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Jack that sounds like a good idea with all the money grabbers running around these days. 2 Million could go quickly.

The dash cam is looking more and more like the thing to do. It would of shown a lot in this one.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 05:47 PM
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It wasn't a bad deal for us. Check with your ins co what they offer. We have everything with this company, home, cars, farm and the rider, and the auto was a maximum already. When I did accident reconstruction 35 years ago it was just crazy where fault was being looked to and the amounts discussed. One of the guys I grew up with had his son hit the back of a vehicle with no major damage. His insurance settled with the plaintiff for 100k.

We could have used the dash cam with the vehicles out of my Van Nuys facility. My group both in NJ and VN was OK driving, every year I did vehicle safety training and every few years we would go for in-vehicle accident avoidance training, missing the crap the trainers would throw in front of us on the track. It was good, over the 25 years I was managing we reduced (NJ) from 1 accident a year to 1 every 3. Only on two occasions in that time were our drivers at fault. Drifting .....

In LA several of the testing groups were involved with homeless people wandering onto the exit ramps (soft but profitable hits) or people accelerating from a stop then hitting brakes hard. Again, soft hit and little time to react. I think It was Bill Stoppe's group that had one guy on an exit ramp coming at them in reverse. You can't deal with that.

Here in Jersey today we just have stupid.

Here's where I had the guys from NJ and MI go. In LA that group went to place in Ontario, but there should places all over the country for anyone interested.


 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 06:04 PM
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This one says USA and North Americas.

 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 07:07 PM
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the one at 3:58 was how mine was.... although i missed the douche turner by getting to a dead stop next to him as they were more in the other lane but not enough... and i got rear ended right after i got stopped...


the one at 2:14 is lucky to have had the camera.. because when the police woulda shown up he woulda been at fault for making the left turn... but with the camera it shows he had the green light when he got hit making the left... but the trucker at 2:44 was really at fault there.. technically both were.. but the trucker didnt help matters...
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 07:28 PM
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A dash cam that records front and rear. But no audio. You don't want to hear me and in some states it's illegal.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 08:22 PM
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id like it if mine recorded both directions too... but it only goes forward.. and the sound on it blows... the diesel in my truck sounds like one of those nitromethane race cars...
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 08:40 PM
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I was wondering about rear view also. At least with forward view in a rear ender you could still see your direction of travel (forward or reversing) and then that sudden change of course after impact. It would still be helpful I think.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 08:44 PM
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Hate that man but I do feel ur pain..just when things seems to be going fine..wham...it all starts over.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 09:32 PM
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Wish I had a rear facing camera last week. Was doing the morning commute, traffic slows, everyone is being all nice and orderly about slowing from 70 (speed limit) to mid-30s because of a merge. Look in the rear view and see a lifted Jeep Wrangler just in time to see the nose dip, the suspension goes squirrely and the driver almost loses control. She managed to swerve to the shoulder without over-correcting back into the lane, and made it past three cars in front of me before she managed to stop.

Just another dip**** on their phone driving, it was still in her hand when I rolled past.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 09:54 PM
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Unfortunately I think it's to the point of front and rear views, or a drone that follows your vehicle 100ft up.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 09:58 PM
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part of the reason i got my camera was because it was cheap... but also the increase in Bump and run scams that started to flood the area where i lived... theyre popular over seas for that reason... and now the scams showing up here...
 
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Old Aug 26, 2018 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
A dash cam that records front and rear. But no audio. You don't want to hear me and in some states it's illegal.
Very true when it comes to recording video and audio.

Anyway I was talking to my tool guy today and we got to thinking that the LEOs showed a bit too fast. They were there in less that 2 minutes. Makes
you ask if they might of been chasing him. I got out of my truck and started to walk back and was dialing 911 at the same time and they were there before the
dispatcher answered. Just a little quick I think.
 
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