If you have the cash.... here's the new version.

 

Are They Resurrecting the Excursion? Not exactly... but WE ARE!!!

 

I don't want to get in any spats here. Disclaimer is I did not see it. A good and reliable friend of mine just purchased a used 2015 F150 in northern Wisconsin this August. He was all excited and made sure to let me know that the dealer had a sign up about the return of the Excursion. Again... I did not see the sign myself but his whole family was there and they all agreed that the sign was posted at the dealer. I do not know any other info other than what I have already stated but I will try to get the dealer name from him. I hate giving second hand info but he was certain it was posted. I'll fill in with any more news.

 

No offense, but these "heard it from a friend who" stories have been going on since 2006. Ford is not bringing back the Excursion, aside from the doubtful possibility that they would rebadge the Expedition XL as an Excursion.

THINK ABOUT IT- The Excursion was based on the Super Duty pickup and the Expedition was based on the F150 pickup. This was at a time when the SD and 150 were two completely different trucks with bodies unique to each of them. Fast-forward to NOW, where the SD and F150 share the same body structure. The Expedition still borrows heavy from the F150 platform, so a new Excursion would basically be an Expedition with Super Duty-ish front sheet metal, a solid axles, and a 100k price tag. In other words- IT WOULDN'T SELL.

Ford set out to make the baddest-**** SUV when they built the Excursion, but they learned their lesson with it in that the audience was limited (more Chevelles built in 1970 alone than all Excursions combined), it drank too much fuel, the ride was rough (one reason the Expedition has IRS), and more people expected it to be a minivan than do the work it was designed to do. Everything that we die-hard fans love about it would make it a sales disaster today...

 

Well I knew that post would come despite my disclaimer. I was just as skeptical and told him so at the time. He was insistant on the sign hanging at the dealer is all I can say. I will just say no more on the subject. Thanks for pi$$ing me off so early in my evening.

BTW. I own and have owned a slew of SD and half tons including Expeditions of most years. Currently with 2 Excursions in my garage. Each has received no less than 375K miles before moving on with the exception of the 2000 Ex that was recently rolled by my son. The Ex was not killed off because of poor ride. Best bet is it was killed over fuel credits. Every Excursion I have ever ridden in from the stockers up to and Including my 2000 with the Pro Comp 4" lift on 35's and my 2002 with the 8" lift on 37's rides WAY better than my 2011 F350 on it's best day. This was never meant to be about opinions. Clearly you have a thing against the big Ex and that's ok. Myself and plenty others I know would buy another. Now that I have expressed MY opinions I will leave this thread.

 

The other not so well known reason was because it was taking sales from the SD lineup. couldn't have the sales show a drop or it would make the SD look like its sales were declining. so with fuel prices on the rise and the talk of killing it off around 04 the X slowly died off.

 

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if you knew the post would come, why let it "pi$$" you off? This is a horse that has been beat since Ford killed the Excursion, so it shouldn't have come to any surprise that yet another "I heard" post was going to garner a response. This thread is chock full of reasons the Ex isn't coming back.

I never said the sole reason the Ex was killed off was because of the ride. The numero uno reason the Ex was killed off was poor sales- sales that declined almost every year. In order for sales to slip, there has to be reasons, and Ford had studied those reasons prior to making the decision to ring the death bell. It couldn't be the styling- Excursion received her minor cosmetic updates right alongside the Super Duty- which didn't see the same decreased sales. It wasn't killed off over fuel credits either- she was mostly exempt at the time due to her weight rating. It's no big secret that the Excursion's suspension was engineered different than her SD bretheren- and that was for two reasons- to make it fit in a garage, and to try to land her in that "better ride" category. The simple fact is, more people were using their Excursions as grocery getters than they were heavy towing and work, and people noticed that the Suburban had a better ride (even though buyers were also walking away from the 2500 Suburban as well). SALES killed the Excursion, but ride quality, along with MPG's and other factors, killed SALES- because the majority of the buying base wanted cushy SUV's more than they wanted a workhorse.

Not to mention, there are thousands of people who can say "I'd buy another one" when one isn't available- when they don't have to put their 100k where their mouth is. Excursion was the king of the hill- so bringing it back would have to have a base price higher than the top-level Expedition. Two solid axles are NEVER going to ride as smooth as today's SUV offerings (and face it, people would complain hard if a new Ex came out with 4-wheel independent suspension). There aren't enough ACTUAL buyers willing to spend that kind of coin on a huge SUV that would still get relatively poor MPG's, if built to the standards of the original. Comparing it to the ride of a heavy duty pickup is apples to oranges, because people expect even the smoothest-riding trucks to ride worse than a plushy SUV- two different vehicles with two different purposes. And the buying public in 2018 are going to reject a brand new SUV that rides like the Excursion did. You forget, people in here aren't the norm when it comes to buying an SUV.

That said, you might consider taking a chill pill. you came into a thread where a future Excursion is being discussed in a civil manner, and the minute you get a response you don't like, you complain about being "pi$$ed," accuse me of hating the very vehicle I spent a year bringing back from the dead, and announce your departure because you stated YOUR opinion and will not accept a disagreement. Come on man, judging by your join date, you've been here long enough to know that's not how FTE flows...

 

[QUOTE=Psyclopse;18278600]I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if you knew the post would come, why let it "pi$$" you off? This is a horse that has been beat since Ford killed the Excursion, so it shouldn't have come to any surprise that yet another "I heard" post was going to garner a response. This thread is chock full of reasons the Ex isn't coming back.

I never said the sole reason the Ex was killed off was because of the ride. The numero uno reason the Ex was killed off was poor sales- sales that declined almost every year. In order for sales to slip, there has to be reasons, and Ford had studied those reasons prior to making the decision to ring the death bell. It couldn't be the styling- Excursion received her minor cosmetic updates right alongside the Super Duty- which didn't see the same decreased sales. It wasn't killed off over fuel credits either- she was mostly exempt at the time due to her weight rating. It's no big secret that the Excursion's suspension was engineered different than her SD bretheren- and that was for two reasons- to make it fit in a garage, and to try to land her in that "better ride" category. The simple fact is, more people were using their Excursions as grocery getters than they were heavy towing and work, and people noticed that the Suburban had a better ride (even though buyers were also walking away from the 2500 Suburban as well). SALES killed the Excursion, but ride quality, along with MPG's and other factors, killed SALES- because the majority of the buying base wanted cushy SUV's more than they wanted a workhorse.

Not to mention, there are thousands of people who can say "I'd buy another one" when one isn't available- when they don't have to put their 100k where their mouth is. Excursion was the king of the hill- so bringing it back would have to have a base price higher than the top-level Expedition. Two solid axles are NEVER going to ride as smooth as today's SUV offerings (and face it, people would complain hard if a new Ex came out with 4-wheel independent suspension). There aren't enough ACTUAL buyers willing to spend that kind of coin on a huge SUV that would still get relatively poor MPG's, if built to the standards of the original. Comparing it to the ride of a heavy duty pickup is apples to oranges, because people expect even the smoothest-riding trucks to ride worse than a plushy SUV- two different vehicles with two different purposes. And the buying public in 2018 are going to reject a brand new SUV that rides like the Excursion did. You forget, people in here aren't the norm when it comes to buying an SUV.

That said, you might consider taking a chill pill. you came into a thread where a future Excursion is being discussed in a civil manner, and the minute you get a response you don't like, you complain about being "pi$$ed," accuse me of hating the very vehicle I spent a year bringing back from the dead, and announce yout
All I can say is "I would be a buyer if it was built on a Superduty platform with a 7.3 engine. My 6.0 that claimed to have a 10% increase in fuel mileage actually dropped from 18 mpg to 16 mpg at best. Also the quite pilot injection is gone. LOL

 

This should be easy to resolve - I'm certain your friend still has the name of the dealership he bought his F150 from. Post it up and we'll just give them a call, no?

 

Oh my heck, are we really doing this? Jimminy Christmas, just because a person posts they don't wanna get into a spat doesn't mean no one can post a different take or opinion based on your post.

You posted your info, you included the qualifier that you didn't see the sign, yet you're gonna get "pissed off" because someone said nope, the sign isn't accurate? C'mon bro, it's not like that We're not like other places. We can have different points of view here and basically all get along.

I can see a dealership contracting with a body shop to make their own style of CABT Excursion and having a banner displayed to market its arrival while it's being built

Either way bud, take it with a grain of salt, grow some thicker skin, something, because in life, not everyone is going to always agree with you.

Stewart

 

Can we get the name of that dealership?

 

 

Ford is no longer going to make cars to sell in the US, only the Mustang and SUV's will be made and sold in the US.

 

Which has absolutely zero to do with this conversation.

This thread has run its course. Another one will pop up in a year or two.

Stewart