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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 03:27 PM
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Brake help!

It all started with a pair of leaking wheel cylinders on my '47 Marmon-Herrington/Merc woodie (technically not a truck, but some of you guys have a ton of experience), equipped with a Chevy 350 and Hydrovac booster. After battling with a bunch of repro crap and several adjustments and system bleeding, we ended up with 4 good cylinders, properly fitting shoes, new rubber hoses, new master cylinder and a firm pedal with the right amount of free play.
It all worked fine on the way to our local C & C today, but on the way home - about 5 miles - the pedal got higher and higher. Finally back home, there was about zero free play, the brake lights were stuck on, and I couldn't budge the car with a push. After about an hour, I checked it again and everything was back to normal.
I suspect something blocked or stuck in the booster, since it's the only component we didn't replace...any ideas?
 
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 05:40 PM
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When I bought my '39 p/u it did exactly what your truck is doing. The PO had done a complete brake job including an off shore master cylinder. I replaced it with a USA made Wagner and no more problem.
 
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 05:48 PM
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Thanks, 51504; an offshore m.c. was causing a different problem, and we did replace it with a Wagner unit...until today I thought we were done!
 
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Old Jul 8, 2018 | 09:29 AM
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If any one ever has there brakes locked up on them just bleed the master cyl.should relive the pressure.

Also feel each wheel as one may be hotter then the others that could be the problem..
Never just replace one wheel cylinder even if it not leaking as it can have one piston frozen on one side with crap.

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Old Jul 8, 2018 | 08:27 PM
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is your hydrovac power by the power steering or vaccum !
 
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Old Jul 8, 2018 | 08:30 PM
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Vacuum power.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2018 | 08:40 PM
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the only time i seen something block was a hose colapse ,which blocked that one Wheel. i seen a double master cylinder apply rear brakes by itself . maybe try and see if theres only one Wheel blocking or all four.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 04:39 PM
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'It all worked fine on the way to our local C & C today, but on the way home - about 5 miles - the pedal got higher and higher. Finally back home, there was about zero free play, the brake lights were stuck on, and I couldn't budge the car with a push. After about an hour, I checked it again and everything was back to normal.'


Sounds very much like a collapsed brake hose to me. Been there done that.... For me the culprit was a brake hose that had a rotted inside causing the lining to become a check valve. It caused the same symptoms you're describing.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2018 | 04:54 PM
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Thanks, but we replaced all the hoses.
 

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Brake fluid..

Sounds like what occurred to me and my 1.5 ton. I used the purple DOT brake fluid because I was told it would be less likely to absorb water but had a lower boiling point. Well the brakes worked fine until I got on to the highway and used them. Just like you my peddle got higher and higher until it was rock solid and the truck would barely move. All the drums were hot but especially the front. I adjusted them back and limped back to the house. With the help of my wife I flushed the system, replacing the fluid with the correct stuff. Worked fine ever since.

 
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