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Old May 25, 2019 | 10:22 AM
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Brake issue

81 f250 , just replaced the drivers rear drum and wheel cylinder and now the pedal only returns 2/3s the way after being bled. Before it worked fine other than my wheel cylinder leaked. Also when i shut off the truck the pedal returns to its position... suggestions?
 
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Old May 25, 2019 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunnerboy
81 f250 , just replaced the drivers rear drum and wheel cylinder and now the pedal only returns 2/3s the way after being bled. Before it worked fine other than my wheel cylinder leaked. Also when i shut off the truck the pedal returns to its position... suggestions?
Couple things come to mind. Did your pedal come back right after the bleed was done and then later went to the 2/3 position? Did you bleed the entire system or only the DS wheel cylinder?

If you got all the air out and the pedal was good afterwards then it looks like the problem may have moved to the master/booster. How leaky was the wheel cylinder before you repaired it? If you were adding brake fluid regularly then your leaky wheel cylinder was acting as a pressure relief. Once repaired the problem moves to the next weak link in the chain. Perhaps the master?

If your hydraulic components are old it gets to the point where you might want to replace them. Wheel cylinders, calipers, master/booster...

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Old May 25, 2019 | 01:00 PM
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Im baffled..its definitely vaccum related, the truck runs horribly now and the pedal once depressed stays at 2/3s like a vaccum is pulling it...if you pull on the pedal the truck dies. It ran like a champ at 20hg before i changed the wheel cylinder
 
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Old May 25, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunnerboy
Im baffled..its definitely vaccum related, the truck runs horribly now and the pedal once depressed stays at 2/3s like a vaccum is pulling it...if you pull on the pedal the truck dies. It ran like a champ at 20hg before i changed the wheel cylinder
Maybe the booster is shot? Try plugging the vacuum line to the booster and if your engine runs well you probably need to replace the booster.
 
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Old May 25, 2019 | 01:25 PM
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Not sure if something else is ruined now or not, but what you should do for the rear brake you worked on is to go back and jack the wheel up, take the truck out of gear so you can turn the wheel by hand, and take a screwdriver or an adjusting tool and stick in the slot on the bottom of the backing plate and adjust the shoes out till you can't turn the wheel by hand,. Then adjust them in till you can turn it by hand, but there is still some rubbing. See what that does. That should bring your pedal back up, unless something else is wrong.
 
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Old May 25, 2019 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue2
Maybe the booster is shot? Try plugging the vacuum line to the booster and if your engine runs well you probably need to replace the booster.
That is what I am thinking.
How did you bleed the system? 2 person 1 pumping the pedal & holding it and the other opening the bleeder?
If so the stroke of the pedal went from a inch or 2 max to a LOT MORE till the floor stopped it. The rubber in the booster now also moved a LOT MORE and could have torn causing the vacuum leak and funky pedal.

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Not sure if something else is ruined now or not, but what you should do for the rear brake you worked on is to go back and jack the wheel up, take the truck out of gear so you can turn the wheel by hand, and take a screwdriver or an adjusting tool and stick in the slot on the bottom of the backing plate and adjust the shoes out till you can't turn the wheel by hand,. Then adjust them in till you can turn it by hand, but there is still some rubbing. See what that does. That should bring your pedal back up, unless something else is wrong.
Yes do this if you have not. Also did you do both sides?
Did the shoes have brake fluid on them and if so they should have been changed and both sides then should have new shoes and if that far new wheel cly too.
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Old May 26, 2019 | 10:07 PM
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Anytime you do brakes, you should do both sides. You should also bleed all the OLD fluid out. As brake fluid gets old, it gets weaker. If you changed the drum on one side, you should change the other side, same with calipers and rotors on front.
 
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