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2006 F-350 6.0 4x4
Truck has been sitting for awhile , battery's weren't turning it over very fast but it started.
I started down the street and see the red battery light is on.
I went back home , shut it off and that was it , wouldn't even turn over.
Put charger on for a hour and it still wont turn over? Starter maybe?
Truck has been sitting for awhile , battery's weren't turning it over very fast but it started.
I started down the street and see the red battery light is on.
I went back home , shut it off and that was it , wouldn't even turn over.
Put charger on for a hour and it still wont turn over? Starter maybe?
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Cargo Master
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Try batteries first maybe?
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Yes I know about batterys going bad , but this truck started 3 minutes before it wouldn't turn over again. Its dead doesn't even try and turn over , no click no nothing.
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Well that's not unusual either. Depending on the amp rate an hour charge isn't enough to do much of anything.
Only way to really eliminate the battery as a source of trouble is to load test them. Charge them up thoroughly before trying that. See if they hold their charge overnight etc. Have to first charge them each individually unless you have a big *** charger. Then see what the voltage drop is during cranking.
Only way to really eliminate the battery as a source of trouble is to load test them. Charge them up thoroughly before trying that. See if they hold their charge overnight etc. Have to first charge them each individually unless you have a big *** charger. Then see what the voltage drop is during cranking.
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Did your old batteries load test bad after charging?
Have you tried cranking using the starter solenoid wire jumpered to the battery positive terminal? By doing this, you can eliminate an issue w/ the PCM preventing the cranking for some reason.
Have you tried cranking using the starter solenoid wire jumpered to the battery positive terminal? By doing this, you can eliminate an issue w/ the PCM preventing the cranking for some reason.
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How please?
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Our questions aren't meant to frustrate you, we are just trying to help you troubleshoot so you don't waste money.
Certain engine problems can cause a no-crank that is unrelated to batteries or starters. Using the solenoid wire jumpered to the battery can show you that the starter is OK if it cranks with that jumper wire. It will also show you that the PCM is preventing the crank.
Cranking w/ the starter solenoid wire jumpered to battery positive (disconnect starter solenoid wire at the connector along passenger side of engine compartment, and touch on battery positive to crank). It is a yellow wire with light blue striped colored wire adjacent to the passenger side battery in the engine compartment, near the vacuum pump that has a "squeeze-and-pull" type connection.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...4f576a8117.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...4dbf37c83c.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...5b1619332d.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...26c7cadcb7.jpg
If it cranks just fine w/ the jumper wire, then:
1. Check fuse f2-22
2. see if it cranks with the shift lever in neutral
3. Check to see if the fuel pump is running with the key on
4. Inspect the fan clutch wire for damage
5. Inspect the EBP sensor wiring for damage
6. With a scan tool, check the v-reference voltage when cranking w/ the key
7. Check/reset the inertia switch
Certain engine problems can cause a no-crank that is unrelated to batteries or starters. Using the solenoid wire jumpered to the battery can show you that the starter is OK if it cranks with that jumper wire. It will also show you that the PCM is preventing the crank.
Cranking w/ the starter solenoid wire jumpered to battery positive (disconnect starter solenoid wire at the connector along passenger side of engine compartment, and touch on battery positive to crank). It is a yellow wire with light blue striped colored wire adjacent to the passenger side battery in the engine compartment, near the vacuum pump that has a "squeeze-and-pull" type connection.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...4f576a8117.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...4dbf37c83c.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...5b1619332d.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...26c7cadcb7.jpg
If it cranks just fine w/ the jumper wire, then:
1. Check fuse f2-22
2. see if it cranks with the shift lever in neutral
3. Check to see if the fuel pump is running with the key on
4. Inspect the fan clutch wire for damage
5. Inspect the EBP sensor wiring for damage
6. With a scan tool, check the v-reference voltage when cranking w/ the key
7. Check/reset the inertia switch
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Our questions aren't meant to frustrate you, we are just trying to help you troubleshoot so you don't waste money.
Certain engine problems can cause a no-crank that is unrelated to batteries or starters. Using the solenoid wire jumpered to the battery can show you that the starter is OK if it cranks with that jumper wire. It will also show you that the PCM is preventing the crank.
Cranking w/ the starter solenoid wire jumpered to battery positive (disconnect starter solenoid wire at the connector along passenger side of engine compartment, and touch on battery positive to crank). It is a yellow wire with light blue striped colored wire adjacent to the passenger side battery in the engine compartment, near the vacuum pump that has a "squeeze-and-pull" type connection.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...4f576a8117.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...4dbf37c83c.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...5b1619332d.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...26c7cadcb7.jpg
If it cranks just fine w/ the jumper wire, then:
1. Check fuse f2-22
2. see if it cranks with the shift lever in neutral
3. Check to see if the fuel pump is running with the key on
4. Inspect the fan clutch wire for damage
5. Inspect the EBP sensor wiring for damage
5. With a scan tool, check the v-reference voltage when cranking w/ the key
Certain engine problems can cause a no-crank that is unrelated to batteries or starters. Using the solenoid wire jumpered to the battery can show you that the starter is OK if it cranks with that jumper wire. It will also show you that the PCM is preventing the crank.
Cranking w/ the starter solenoid wire jumpered to battery positive (disconnect starter solenoid wire at the connector along passenger side of engine compartment, and touch on battery positive to crank). It is a yellow wire with light blue striped colored wire adjacent to the passenger side battery in the engine compartment, near the vacuum pump that has a "squeeze-and-pull" type connection.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...4f576a8117.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...4dbf37c83c.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...5b1619332d.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...26c7cadcb7.jpg
If it cranks just fine w/ the jumper wire, then:
1. Check fuse f2-22
2. see if it cranks with the shift lever in neutral
3. Check to see if the fuel pump is running with the key on
4. Inspect the fan clutch wire for damage
5. Inspect the EBP sensor wiring for damage
5. With a scan tool, check the v-reference voltage when cranking w/ the key
But anyway i turned key on and jumped it , and it started.
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When I went looking for the wire to jump from I found a butchered wire instead of stock one.
Someone replaced or has been messing with that wire for some reason.
Comment was a observation of what I found.