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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 08:21 AM
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Time for Airbags?

Towing my 43' 23k 5th wheel (4400# pin weight) with my 2018 F450 there isn't much clearance to the bump stop. I think I'm hitting it quite often going over bridges and such. Airbags would smooth this out right?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 10:52 AM
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Those bump stops are "squishy". Thought they may not feel like it by hand, they'll deform as absorb shock as they are compressed.
That being said, if your pin weight really is over 4klb, then airbags would surely help. I have them on my '17 450 for hauling a TC. Love that I can keep the truck level with 4k+ in the bed. No headlights in the sky, no sagging rear end. I recommend the airlift 5000 ultimate, which have an internal jounce bumper. Since the install removes the factory bump stops, if an airbag were to fail the internal bumper is critical to preventing damage to the suspension from over-flexing. Install takes just a couple hours. You need to trim one of the bolts on each side to prevent interference with the sway bar (a hacksaw could do it).
 
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 03:43 PM
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As mentioned above, it's nice to be able to take the squat out of the truck when it's heavy. If you're presently hitting the bumpers on a regular basis, that gets old fast. Air bags will stop that. All 3 trucks in my signature have them and so did the prior 4. You might guess my opinion on them!
What is the payload (yellow sticker) on that truck? I'm not the weight police, I just want to know. My wife and I are starting to look at our next 5er and it'll probably be pretty heavy. I'm currently pulling a 37' that typically weighs 14K lb. with a 2750 pin. Veh. is a 350 SRW 6.7 and I consider it to be at max capacity. I'm debating 350 DRW vs 450 for the next truck. Thanks.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 04:28 PM
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Yellow sticker for my ‘17 450 plat FYSA

 
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 05:58 PM
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Thank you!
 
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by P.Bronner
Thank you!
It's around there.

I went across the scales on the way back from Florida after filling up. I was just over 14k total on the truck and 18.6k on trailer, 8800 on the rear axle (9900 capacity) 33k total more or less.

Without the trailer and a full tank I was 4400 on the rear axle.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 08:45 PM
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Obviously you need a bigger trailer....
 
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Old Apr 14, 2018 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by P.Bronner
Obviously you need a bigger trailer....
Well then I'd need to post on the HDT truck forums
 
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This is the sticker on my '13 350 dwr... I'd be a bit upset if I bought a 450 and got less capacity
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:36 AM
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WOW! That's huge.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Geno C
This is the sticker on my '13 350 dwr... I'd be a bit upset if I bought a 450 and got less capacity
The F450 will have less capacity, since they limit both the 350 and 450 dually to 14k GVWR to keep them both class 3 but the 450 uses heavier parts (wheels, tires, calipers) you get less payload capacity. I picked the 450 purely for the improved turning radius. It is very noticeable both daily driving and maneuvering a big trailer.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 09:51 AM
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That's makes sense. I wouldn't mind a larger front axle and tighter turning.
 
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