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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 03:24 PM
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Ball joints?

I know my tie rods are bad but when I raised my driver side tire I grabbed it by the 12 and 6 o'clock and it rocks back and forth. But when looking at the joint there is no play. I even put a bar under the tire and tried to see if that would show the joint being bad but nothing. Could the ball joint still be bad even if I see zero play or do I need to look elsewhere? Truck is a 88 F250 light duty
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 03:43 PM
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When grabbing at 12 & 6, play is typically either from ball joints or from wheel bearings. How are the wheel bearings?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinBoarding
When grabbing at 12 & 6, play is typically either from ball joints or from wheel bearings. How are the wheel bearings?
I didn't even think of wheel bearings. Can they cause enough play on the wheel to move back and forth a couple inches? I'll start to take the hub off after work today
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 05:40 PM
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If you are grabbing the wheel at 12 and 6 and it has play in it, you should be able to see where the play is coming from. Have someone move the wheel while you look underneath for where the play is happening.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 08:02 PM
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If you are grabbing the wheel at 12 and 6 and it has play in it, you should be able to see where the play is coming from. Have someone move the wheel while you look underneath for where the play is happening.
Only part I saw moving was the axle shaft. I pulled the bearing (both races are frickin pressed in) and are they suppose to have any play? By that I mean between the tapered part of the bearing and the inner part of the bearing. In the pic I'm separating the two parts with my pick


 
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What your photo shows is the bearing inner race and roller cage, the outer race is pressed in the wheel hub. The wheel hub has an inner bearing and an outer bearing. Can't tell much about the condition of the bearing from your photo except that the grease is dirty, but wheel bearings are inexpensive and it would be worth it to replace them, the outer races, and the seals while you have the hub off the axle.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 08:30 AM
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What your photo shows is the bearing inner race and roller cage, the outer race is pressed in the wheel hub. The wheel hub has an inner bearing and an outer bearing. Can't tell much about the condition of the bearing from your photo except that the grease is dirty, but wheel bearings are inexpensive and it would be worth it to replace them, the outer races, and the seals while you have the hub off the axle.
is there suppose to be play between the inner race and roller cage?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by anthonym92
is there suppose to be play between the inner race and roller cage?

Yes, the rollers make contact with both races (inner and outer) when you tighten then adjust the axle nut. FYI the outer race is also called a cone. When you replace the bearings get a new cotter pin also.
 

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