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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 02:49 PM
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Reese isn't selling an Elite underbed kit for the OP's truck yet. The Ford kit is $695 and includes the wiring harness.

https://accessories.ford.com/exterio...ket-11605.html

The most recent Reese kit (which doesn't fit a '17) is on Amazon for $746 without the wiring harness.

https://www.amazon.com/Reese-30138-26-Elite-Under-Bed-Gooseneck/dp/B004R3BYII/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1520628273&sr=8-7&keywords=reese+elite+rail https://www.amazon.com/Reese-30138-26-Elite-Under-Bed-Gooseneck/dp/B004R3BYII/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1520628273&sr=8-7&keywords=reese+elite+rail

I did a lot of leg work when I was shopping for my rail kit and found the one Ford sells to be the best deal all around. My kit even had new bed bolts in it for $545 out the door.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2018 | 01:28 PM
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According to Reese, they do not have anything available for the 17-18 because of the aluminum body, don't know why that is an issue but that is what I was told when I called.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 04:15 PM
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Hello everyone, new to the forum, and first post. I called a dealer in Detroit Ann Arbor area as follow up for the Ford prep pkg from a few weeks ago, only to find out they just sold one to another customer last week. When I asked where they got one as these are BO, they said they "found him one". What? Apparently the dealer has access to a dealer parts finder network, so I asked if any more and where. They found 2 sitting at Cambridge Classic Ford in Ohio. This was yesterday- needless to say I drove down there this morning and 4 hours later picked one up for a decent price. Even though their parts and service is closed on Saturday, Randy their parts guy came in just so I could pick it up- still some decent folk out there. Bottom line, if your looking for this Ford item, get your dealer to do a search and maybe find one near you. Good luck!
 
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 05:41 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2018 | 08:17 AM
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dont know why folks keeps saying the reese kit and the ford kit is the same. the reese kit has to be assembled and looks nothing like the ford 1 piece unit.

so yes, there are a bunch of part numbers in this kit family.

I think the bracket vs non bracket version is an interesting point...but...the net inpact on the kit is not clear since no kit comes with the non welded brackets and exra bolts....all kits have the outside brackets...so you would think that there would be an "with inside bracket" version with 4 extra bolts and the extra bracket and a "bracket not needed becuase its welded already on the frame version" which would only have the exra 4 bolts. but, I have not seen this to be the case.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl4Cat
Right, the one Ford sells is one Reese makes specifically as an OE supplied product. Same product but all one piece due to no shipping constraints and installation before the bed is mounted. Both made by Reese and both install the same way more or less. So technically, you're right. They aren't exactly the same but close enough for government work. The hitch itself, on the other hand, is identical but for the sticker...
Rodney, the Ford factory hitch prep kit and the Reese aftermarket underbed hitch prep kit are very different in construction and mounting engineering, even though both use the same pucks, the same gooseneck ball, and have the same registration points between the five holes that must be drilled into the bed.

The Ford factory kit is FAR and away SUPERIOR to the Reese aftermarket kit. The two kits are not even close enough to be on the same planet, never mind close enough for government work.

Ford got the idea from Reese, and Ford licensed the pucks and ball and pattern from Reese. But Ford took it from there and filed multiple patents, under Ford's name, that clearly illustrate the many innovations that Ford enhanced the basic concept with, all of which integrate better with the Ford pickup frame, exhaust system, load distribution stresses, and quite a few other factors. Keep in mind, Ford filed several patents, which you can look up easily onlinie, and see the illustrations and read the patent arguments for what is unique about the Ford factory implementation of the underbed hitch platform.

Personally, I think Dodge/Ram did it even better, from a pure physics perspective... and B&W and PullRite seem to agree... two USA hitch manufacturers who offer higher weight capacity fifth wheel hitches for the Ram platform than they offer for the Ford or Reese platform. But that's besides the point...

If you were to hold and handle both underbed prep kits in your hands... such that you could physically examine the differences, you might change your mind about them being close enough. Above the bed, where everyone can see, yes, they appear identical. But below the bed, where they engage with the frame, they are different structures entirely. If I had a pickup frame, and it was a Ford, I'd go with the Ford factory prep kit hands down.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
Rodney, the Ford factory hitch prep kit and the Reese aftermarket underbed hitch prep kit are very different in construction and mounting engineering, even though both use the same pucks, the same gooseneck ball, and have the same registration points between the five holes that must be drilled into the bed.

The Ford factory kit is FAR and away SUPERIOR to the Reese aftermarket kit. The two kits are not even close enough to be on the same planet, never mind close enough for government work.

Ford got the idea from Reese, and Ford licensed the pucks and ball and pattern from Reese. But Ford took it from there and filed multiple patents, under Ford's name, that clearly illustrate the many innovations that Ford enhanced the basic concept with, all of which integrate better with the Ford pickup frame, exhaust system, load distribution stresses, and quite a few other factors. Keep in mind, Ford filed several patents, which you can look up easily onlinie, and see the illustrations and read the patent arguments for what is unique about the Ford factory implementation of the underbed hitch platform.

Personally, I think Dodge/Ram did it even better, from a pure physics perspective... and B&W and PullRite seem to agree... two USA hitch manufacturers who offer higher weight capacity fifth wheel hitches for the Ram platform than they offer for the Ford or Reese platform. But that's besides the point...

If you were to hold and handle both underbed prep kits in your hands... such that you could physically examine the differences, you might change your mind about them being close enough. Above the bed, where everyone can see, yes, they appear identical. But below the bed, where they engage with the frame, they are different structures entirely. If I had a pickup frame, and it was a Ford, I'd go with the Ford factory prep kit hands down.

thanks for posting

i dont know why folks who don’t have the ford hitch keep telling the folks who do have the ford hitch that the Reese hitch and ford hitch are the same.

 
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Old Apr 11, 2018 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz



thanks for posting

i dont know why folks who don’t have the ford hitch keep telling the folks who do have the ford hitch that the Reese hitch and ford hitch are the same.

i suspect it’s because their referring to The Fifth wheel hitch itself and not the structural components that are listed as Fifth wheel / Gooseneck Perp kit. Reese is the manufacturer of the fifth wheel hitch that is an OEM option that can be ordered when building. But sure your aware of this.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2020 | 02:27 PM
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Super Duty 2017+ Hitch Prep Installation Instructions

Does anyone have the printed instructions from Ford for the fifth wheel hitch prep kit? I purchased part number LC3Z-5F057-A from my local dealer but no instructions in the box. They didn't have any to share with me. If anyone has a set that they wouldn't mind scanning and sending in a .PDF please let me know. I have searched the internet for several days and can't find them anywhere.

Thanks in advance for your help.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2020 | 07:51 PM
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Bunch of youtube vids. This guy here lists measurements @ 2:40 into the vid for a 17 shortbed with a spray in liner. Pretty straight forward.

Looking closer though I don't know the "kit" part number he used but below is a shot from his video of the side plate with a part number. I'd see if it's the same as yours. Looks like he atleast got directions with his although they didn't seem to help him.

 
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Old Oct 30, 2020 | 08:12 PM
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Old Oct 31, 2020 | 10:37 AM
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Ford Fifth Wheel Hitch Prep Install Instructions

Thanks for the info. After quite a bunch of searching on the internet, I found a complete set of instructions in .PDF format. It's 9MB of data and the forum has a limit of 5MB so I can't attach it to this response.

I appreciate your assistance and knowledge.

Cheers!
 
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Old Oct 31, 2020 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah Super Duty
Thanks for the info. After quite a bunch of searching on the internet, I found a complete set of instructions in .PDF format. It's 9MB of data and the forum has a limit of 5MB so I can't attach it to this response.

I appreciate your assistance and knowledge.

Cheers!
can you post the link to where you found it?

thank you


 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 08:44 PM
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Here's a thread where I posted (Post #8) a scanned in version of the instructions that came with my Ford 5th Wheel Prep that was installed by the dealer after I took delivery of the truck.

Factory Fifth Wheel Prep instructions
 
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