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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 10:51 AM
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Thanks for letting us know how it all worked out, and glad it was good.
Just remember, some of us naysayers are just trying to provide accurate information based on the judgement of someone we don't know, never met and have no idea what kind of mechanical comprehension they have. After you've been on forums for a decade or two, and try to help diagnose a truck through a keyboard and monitor, you kind of go to the lowest common denominator approach.
Not to sound mean but back when I did emissions testing, none of the phonied up underhood stuff would have passed and just having a non stock carb and intake would have got you bounced out of my garage. It would have went to the city operated referee facility.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 11:05 AM
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Nice work mate, glad it worked with the 750 4bbl!

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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 10:55 AM
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Congratulations. O2 sensors really let you know what is going on.

Serious question. How does it run.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 12:26 PM
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Congratulations. O2 sensors really let you know what is going on.

Serious question. How does it run.
Thanks. To be honest, it runs ok for having this calibration in it for emissions. I will need to re-tune it more for performance for what I want to use it for.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 04:43 PM
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Did you change the AFR for cruise conditions and wide open throttle or, just the idle mixture?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 11:28 PM
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Good deal on passing. I wasn't very sure it could be done with your set up. It's always good to learn something new.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 05:40 AM
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Did you change the AFR for cruise conditions and wide open throttle or, just the idle mixture?
To get it to pass I had to change it at idle and at what they consider cruise (2500rpm). To get the cruise dailed in I had to change jets, rods and disconnect the secondaries. Idle was just adjusted by the mixture screws. Once I get the new plates on it, I will then tune it for each of those stages you mentioned.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 12:03 PM
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So, just out of curiosity, what did you end up with for rods and jets? That's pretty awesome, BTW, while I didn't doubt you could get there without the "system" , I really didn't know if you could get there with that carb.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 02:08 PM
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To get it to pass I had to change it at idle and at what they consider cruise (2500rpm). To get the cruise dailed in I had to change jets, rods and disconnect the secondaries. Idle was just adjusted by the mixture screws. Once I get the new plates on it, I will then tune it for each of those stages you mentioned.
Isn't it just pointless and silly they do the 2500 and call it cruise speed. With no load on the engine, that rpm has nothing to do with what the engine is doing at cruise. So they basically have the owner tuning his engine all out of whack for any real world situation.
That was one reason Anchorage was so **** about all the original stuff being there and operational. They figured if all the emissions equipment was working, that was the most important. All the tailpipe test was for was to make sure raw gas wasn't running out the tailpipe.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 04:18 PM
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Long term it might be a lot easier to have a carburettor that is set up to pass the test... however often that is. After that, bolt on your regular one again an you're good to go.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 04:51 PM
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So, just out of curiosity, what did you end up with for rods and jets? That's pretty awesome, BTW, while I didn't doubt you could get there without the "system" , I really didn't know if you could get there with that carb.
I changed the metering rods to 071x047, main jets at .104 and changed secondary jets to .098.

Isn't it just pointless and silly they do the 2500 and call it cruise speed. With no load on the engine, that rpm has nothing to do with what the engine is doing at cruise. So they basically have the owner tuning his engine all out of whack for any real world situation
I agree. The main thing that made me angry about the whole thing was that the truck past the sniffer test the first time I took it in but they wouldn't visually pass it because there was no cat, no air pump and a intake that didn't have port for the air pump in it.
 
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