Coolant filtration system - Page 2 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Coolant filtration system

Reply

 
 
 
  #16  
Old 01-25-2018, 01:49 PM
hydro man 17
hydro man 17 is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hat Creek Ca
Posts: 1,667
hydro man 17 has a good reputation on FTE.hydro man 17 has a good reputation on FTE.
The best route is to completely flush the system and go with ELC EC-1 rated coolant. No filtration needed. Just my $.02
 
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-25-2018, 03:37 PM
kx125str99's Avatar
kx125str99
kx125str99 is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: santa clarita
Posts: 109
kx125str99 is starting off with a positive reputation.
My 7.3 is a 2000
 
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-25-2018, 07:43 PM
schlepprock250's Avatar
schlepprock250
schlepprock250 is online now
Guns Dont Kill People..
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Archdale,N.C.
Posts: 2,558
schlepprock250 is a splendid one to beholdschlepprock250 is a splendid one to beholdschlepprock250 is a splendid one to beholdschlepprock250 is a splendid one to beholdschlepprock250 is a splendid one to beholdschlepprock250 is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by hydro man 17 View Post
The best route is to completely flush the system and go with ELC EC-1 rated coolant. No filtration needed. Just my $.02
Well... Mostly correct. I was doing some work to my truck, radiator, water pump, oil cooler Tstat, inj. orings and all hoses. I done a complete flush and clean out of my cooling system using Cascade dishwasher liquid. Which works very well by the way. But after a while I started noticing crud and floaters in my degas bottle. What happened was even after several hose flushes and 40 gallons of distilled water there was still Cascade left in the system and it continued to clean. So the point is even after a thorough flush I still needed a coolant filtration system. Which I purchased from Riffraff Diesel.
 
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-12-2018, 10:34 AM
MadMedic20's Avatar
MadMedic20
MadMedic20 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,111
MadMedic20 is starting off with a positive reputation.
I put a Sinister coolant filter on my 2000. If International has an integrated filter on their water pumps maybe its not a bad idea to have one. Plus it adds another quart or so of coolant and some extra plumbing for the coolant to run through maybe get a little more cooling from the system.
 
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-12-2018, 02:02 PM
afmedic
afmedic is online now
Elder User
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 734
afmedic has a good reputation on FTE.afmedic has a good reputation on FTE.afmedic has a good reputation on FTE.
Originally Posted by ArmyLifer View Post
You canít use ELC in certain 7.3ís but Iím not up on the details. Itís in the link.
I believe it was the earlier models with the factory injector cups. The ELC isn't compatible with the sealant used on the cups. Or so I'm told. I'm not an engineer or a subject matter expert, but this has been the general consensus from my readings here at FTE
 
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 02-12-2018, 02:44 PM
hydro man 17
hydro man 17 is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hat Creek Ca
Posts: 1,667
hydro man 17 has a good reputation on FTE.hydro man 17 has a good reputation on FTE.
I believe that the "cut-off" for the ELC is mid year 99' but I don't know how you could do a test to make sure that a late 99' has the "right stuff"
 
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-12-2018, 03:46 PM
AllaboutMPG's Avatar
AllaboutMPG
AllaboutMPG is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Locust Grove, GA
Posts: 2,598
AllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by hydro man 17 View Post
I believe that the "cut-off" for the ELC is mid year 99' but I don't know how you could do a test to make sure that a late 99' has the "right stuff"

Best way to decide is by engine serial nbr

Found this in Gooch's Coolant thread

*Tip* Due to International's compatibility tests, all pre-2/2/99 build engines (pre-SN 940614) should use a conventional coolant with the addition of SCA (or a pre-charged conventional coolant already charged with SCA).
 
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-12-2018, 05:20 PM
CousinCarl's Avatar
CousinCarl
CousinCarl is online now
Senior User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Texas
Posts: 380
CousinCarl is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
I also run the Rotella ELC CAT EC-1 and also second the upper rad hose that route around the belt. A couple bucks that saves you two-fold more in headache later when replacing the belt.

Cut off date is 2/2/99 for ELC. I don't run a filter but have considered Clay's product if I were to. There was a write up on here also making your own DIY kit using Napa parts for under $60 IIRC.
 
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 02-12-2018, 08:13 PM
AllaboutMPG's Avatar
AllaboutMPG
AllaboutMPG is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Locust Grove, GA
Posts: 2,598
AllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to behold
The way I understand it to decide whether or not to use ELC is not truck build date 2/2/99 but engine build date and serial number. They could have built engines that sat on the shelf for a month or 2 and went into a later build truck. to be sure check your engine serial number. Can be found on the sticker on your valve cover I think(mine is gone). I know for sure it's stamped on the flat surface on the block just above the oil filter.
 
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 02-13-2018, 08:43 AM
SaintITC
SaintITC is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Springfield, PA
Posts: 1,298
SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.
Another consideration is the "why" a filter is needed. I understand this to be for the use of the SCA in the coolant. Over time, the SCA drops out of solution as a particulate. This explains the need to test SCA levels and add more as required over time.

If you can convert to ELC, then you will no longer have any SCA in your coolant system and shouldn't need the filters. Although as indicated by schlepprock250 a very thorough flush is needed, if even possible to get all particulate matter out of your system. Also, if you stick with SCA and go with the IH water pump w/ integral filter, pre-charged SCA filters are available, making it easier to ensure proper SCA levels.

Gooch's Flush is a good read for info about all of this.
 
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 02-13-2018, 08:46 PM
Stewart_H's Avatar
Stewart_H
Stewart_H is offline
The Nekkid Super Mod
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Central Coast of CA
Posts: 27,276
Stewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputationStewart_H has a superb reputation
Originally Posted by SaintITC View Post
Another consideration is the "why" a filter is needed. I understand this to be for the use of the SCA in the coolant. Over time, the SCA drops out of solution as a particulate. This explains the need to test SCA levels and add more as required over time.

If you can convert to ELC, then you will no longer have any SCA in your coolant system and shouldn't need the filters.
Ah, but to quote Gooch from that information thread I compiled, "...a coolant filter is always a good idea...in any cooling system."

Stewart
 
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 02-14-2018, 09:18 AM
AllaboutMPG's Avatar
AllaboutMPG
AllaboutMPG is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Locust Grove, GA
Posts: 2,598
AllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to beholdAllaboutMPG is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by Stewart_H View Post
Ah, but to quote Gooch from that information thread I compiled, "...a coolant filter is always a good idea...in any cooling system."

Stewart

I went with the IH water pump with built in filter. I fully expected my first filter to be full of crud based on pics posted by other folks who had posted first filters.
I was pleasantly surprised when I cut it open that my first filter after 5000k miles was virtually debris free. Very anti climatic but I have peace of mind and a very easy filter change.
 
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 02-14-2018, 11:04 AM
Sous's Avatar
Sous
Sous is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lake Hartwell, GA
Posts: 6,498
Sous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant future
I had the same experience as Paul after installing the IH pump and cutting open the filter at 1000 miles, then again at 7000. No debris, but I swapped to ELC at the pump install time and ran a lot of water through the system.

If you decide you don't want to run a filter, there is a shut off valve that is easily turned. I would recommend leaving the filter on though otherwise there is an open port to your cooling system if not.
 
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 02-14-2018, 11:49 AM
SaintITC
SaintITC is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Springfield, PA
Posts: 1,298
SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.SaintITC has a great reputation on FTE.
I don't think that shut-off valve is meant to allow running w/o a filter installed. The valve has an o-ring to keep it from leaking past the stem, but the internal part isn't sealed at all - at least not on my aftermarket IH style pump. I think it's more of a way to keep your coolant from quickly draining out while changing the filter.
 
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 02-14-2018, 11:54 AM
Sous's Avatar
Sous
Sous is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Lake Hartwell, GA
Posts: 6,498
Sous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant futureSous has a brilliant future
The filter valve is a shut off (no coolant flow) and not a bypass (allows coolant flow when valve is closed) then, got it.
 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
corksil
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
2
08-08-2015 01:25 PM
bigpimpin
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
1
12-01-2013 02:45 AM
adambmoodie
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
13
05-19-2010 09:00 AM
MoreBoostPlease
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
19
03-05-2010 12:43 PM
Headviking
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
18
07-08-2009 12:26 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Coolant filtration system


Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.