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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 01:51 PM
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If I have to take an automatic transmission, then I want one with as few other electro-nannies as possible. So I'll pass on this Terrain Management stuff. I haven't used it or seen it in action, but I'm sure like anything else; it's great when the truck is new and everything still works. But what's going to happen the day after the warranty expires? How much is all this stuff going to cost me to repair once the warranty expires?
For those of us who still like a manual; let's face it guys: we're dinosaurs now. There's no place for us in the new truck world!
 
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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 01:58 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AlaskanEx
Did you see the 4x4 switch though? it only shows 2HI 4HI and 4Low, that is the confusing part. On the Raptor you have 2HI, 4A, 4HI, 4Low.


The way I read it, the TMS has nothing to do with the Transfer Case, see below.
But the sentence right before the one you quoted says

"The Normal mode is used for regular driving, where the Everest’s full-time four-wheel drive system can shuffle torque between the front and rear axles as required." I am assuming that the TMS in "normal" mode makes the 4A position redundant.

TMS is also used in the American Explorer, which is clearly an AWD vehicle. I take the "shuffling torque" as meaning there is a variable clutched transfer case.

In any case, we will know the answer soon enough, but I can't imagine Ford using all these etronics without making it a good road-going system that will work in AWD.

EDIT: It's all good. The Ford Australia site has a downloadable Everest brochure that talks about the TMS modes and the Normal mode is described as "Road. Switch the dial to Normal mode and the full-time
4WD system will maximise traction and stability for greater
control when travelling along sealed roads"

Here is the link to the Ford Australia site: you can download Ranger brochures also. Interestingly, the Ranger brochure does NOT talk about TMS and the Aussie Ranger is standard with a manual trans, but the American Ranger will most certainly have the TMS capabilities of the Everest.... https://www.ford.com.au/suv/everest/capabilities/#
 
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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by YoGeorge
But the sentence right before the one you quoted says

"The Normal mode is used for regular driving, where the Everest’s full-time four-wheel drive system can shuffle torque between the front and rear axles as required." I am assuming that the TMS in "normal" mode makes the 4A position redundant.

TMS is also used in the American Explorer, which is clearly an AWD vehicle. I take the "shuffling torque" as meaning there is a variable clutched transfer case.

In any case, we will know the answer soon enough, but I can't imagine Ford using all these etronics without making it a good road-going system that will work in AWD.

EDIT: It's all good. The Ford Australia site has a downloadable Everest brochure that talks about the TMS modes and the Normal mode is described as "Road. Switch the dial to Normal mode and the full-time
4WD system will maximise traction and stability for greater
control when travelling along sealed roads"
Yes, but the Everest uses a different transfer case (full time) than the US Ranger, as the Ranger has a 2HI setting that the Everest does not.

Far as I have found the drivetrain of the US ranger is exclusively US parts and different then what is used in the global market.


In this released info it basically spells out, its a normal 2 speed transfer case. Combine that with the dash switch only showing 2,4H,4L at least to start there is no on road auto 4x4 system.

Four-wheel-drive models will get a two-speed transfer case with shift-on-the-fly capabilities between 2-Hi and 4-Hi. A DANA Trac-lok rear differential and open-front diff are standard, but opting for the FX4 or FX2 off-road packages nets owners a DANA electronic locking rear diff.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...se-date-specs/
 
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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AlaskanEx
Yes, but the Everest uses a different transfer case (full time) than the US Ranger, as the Ranger has a 2HI setting that the Everest does not.

Far as I have found the drivetrain of the US ranger is exclusively US parts and different then what is used in the global market.


In this released info it basically spells out, its a normal 2 speed transfer case. Combine that with the dash switch only showing 2,4H,4L at least to start there is no on road auto 4x4 system.



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But even the Road and Track article indicates there is a "Normal" position for the TMS, which I contend will be a full-time AWD system setting based on the text of the Australian TMS Everest system. With all the etronic controls, it would not make sense to use an old fashioned 2 speed manual transfer case.

No need to argue this, as it will become very clear by the time either of us buy one

Have a great day. I am hoping the new Ranger and Bronco will be a great success, because they will be built in the Wayne, Michigan plant, where my wife's old '86 Escort GT was built, and which employs UAW employees in the Detroit area where I have lived for my whole life I currently have my sights on a Bronco as my next daily driver. In the meantime, Ford is gonna tempt me with their 2019 Edge ST.

I will be going to the Detroit auto show next week and see both the 2019 Edge and the new Ranger. But the people on staff there are probably not gonna be well versed on 4WD details.

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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by YoGeorge
But even the Road and Track article indicates there is a "Normal" position for the TMS,
Just friendly discussion

The way I read it, the terrain management system only adjusts sensitivity of RSC, Traction Control and throttle controls for each "mode". So with that thinking "Normal" would be used to on road in any transfer case setting. The way the system is spelled out in all the press releases it's just getting an old fashion 2 speed transfer case.

Either way I can't wait to go test drive one.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 08:44 PM
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If anyone see’s one in person, try to look under it and see what transfer box fluid it uses? Could be a hint if there are clutches are not.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2018 | 11:03 PM
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i remember when 150, 250, and 350 cabs were all the same. then the superduty was completely different. at first i wasnt a big fan until they went back to sharing the same cabs last year. if the new superdutys arent duallys its hard to tell whether its a 150, 250, or 350.

just a thought and not very likely. maybe the 150 cab will become the ranger cab at some point. to me the 150 and new ranger are pretty much the same

lastly, if the new ranger is "exactly" like whats available around the rest of the world the new bronco will be the everest
 
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Old Jan 18, 2018 | 07:51 AM
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For a mid-size truck I think it looks great. I just wish they'd stop calling these small trucks. The new mid-size trucks are 90% the size of my 2000 F-150.

The good news is I can imagine a good looking Bronco with this bodystyle and it will be pretty much the size of the 78-96 FSB. A nice fiberglass top on the back color matched or off-white could look really good.

Let's just hope they have the ***** to do the Bronco right. Without that removable top and a heavily offroad-focused front suspension, the Bronco will just be like every other "SUV" offered for the past 20 years.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2018 | 02:27 PM
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them were the best days when ford used the same cab for all 125 250 and 350s im glad they are comming back around to that. it sure made the aftermarket option much more. and swapping parts was great.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2018 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by someday
if the new superdutys arent duallys its hard to tell whether its a 150, 250, or 350.
Is it the entirely different front clip or the entirely different bed that makes this distinction difficult to see?

Other than the door skins I don't think there's a piece of body metal that looks remotely similar?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2018 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by texastech_diesel
Is it the entirely different front clip or the entirely different bed that makes this distinction difficult to see?

Other than the door skins I don't think there's a piece of body metal that looks remotely similar?
^^^^^^

This right here. The only thing that's the same is the cab.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2018 | 01:43 PM
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^^^^^^

This right here. The only thing that's the same is the cab.
that one of them alumindumb cabs?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2018 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by texastech_diesel
Is it the entirely different front clip or the entirely different bed that makes this distinction difficult to see?

Other than the door skins I don't think there's a piece of body metal that looks remotely similar?
There more you strip away, the more they look alike.


 
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Old Jan 20, 2018 | 11:47 AM
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I've never mistaken a new Super Duty for current F150 or vice versa. They're nothing alike except the cab.
 
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