Goodyear Endurance?
Thread Starter
|
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 27,351
Likes: 5,945
From: Lake Hartwell, GA
Goodyear Endurance?
Is the verdict in yet?
Last time we left off they were "not as good" as Saliun, but much better than the last GY Marathons. First hand experience is great, but second hand experience is good too. If you have been reading about the tires on another forum somewhere, a summarized opinion on them would be welcome.
Any stories of exploding like China bombs or Marathons?
Odd wear patterns?
Bubbles or deformities in the tires showing up?
Thanks for your input, not only for my sake, but for the sake of other readers and people considering the GY Endurance tires.
Last time we left off they were "not as good" as Saliun, but much better than the last GY Marathons. First hand experience is great, but second hand experience is good too. If you have been reading about the tires on another forum somewhere, a summarized opinion on them would be welcome.
Any stories of exploding like China bombs or Marathons?
Odd wear patterns?
Bubbles or deformities in the tires showing up?
Thanks for your input, not only for my sake, but for the sake of other readers and people considering the GY Endurance tires.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 960
Likes: 4
Is the verdict in yet?
Last time we left off they were "not as good" as Saliun, but much better than the last GY Marathons. First hand experience is great, but second hand experience is good too. If you have been reading about the tires on another forum somewhere, a summarized opinion on them would be welcome.
Any stories of exploding like China bombs or Marathons?
Odd wear patterns?
Bubbles or deformities in the tires showing up?
Thanks for your input, not only for my sake, but for the sake of other readers and people considering the GY Endurance tires.
Last time we left off they were "not as good" as Saliun, but much better than the last GY Marathons. First hand experience is great, but second hand experience is good too. If you have been reading about the tires on another forum somewhere, a summarized opinion on them would be welcome.
Any stories of exploding like China bombs or Marathons?
Odd wear patterns?
Bubbles or deformities in the tires showing up?
Thanks for your input, not only for my sake, but for the sake of other readers and people considering the GY Endurance tires.
Thread Starter
|
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 27,351
Likes: 5,945
From: Lake Hartwell, GA
I have a couple of concerns about the Sailuns, they are below.
- I cannot say for certain that my rims are capable of withstanding 100-110 PSI. I tried to contact the manufacturer and received no response. I tried to contact Saliun and received information stating that I could run them at 80 PSI, but they would not be up to the sidewall strength that they should be.
Golfmedik was nice enough to post this chart in another thread for me.
As you can see, the PSI rating goes down, but I don't know if this is just to show at what PSI the tire is considered to be in for the different rating (C, D, E, etc), or if this means that the tire could safely be ran at the lower PSI. For me personally, I am not comfortable with inflating a 110 PSI tire to 80 PSI and then trying to turn or back into a spot on that sidewall that may not be up to the task.
- Some on the internet claim that the rim PSI rating is negligible and what really sets the max PSI on the rim is the valve stem. I don't know for sure about that either, just know what I have read. Again, I don't want to push a rim that is rated to run at 80 PSI up to 110 PSI just to see what happens.
- Some claim that the Sailuns running at 110 PSI are too stiff of a tire for a trailer rated to run at 80 PSI. They cause the body/living space of the camper to get "beat up" too much, or more than they would or did on the 80 PSI tires. Again, I don't know if this is true and I have not seen it first hand. Just passing along my thoughts. The last thing I want to do is make something worse by trying to make it better.
- I have not taken a wheel completely off my trailer yet to verify 100% that they are not capable of running the 110 PSI Sailun, but from what I could see the only information stamped on the inside of the wheel is this.
I could upgrade to 8 lug wheels, but doing this so I can run the Sailun tires seems a bit silly to me. The price would increase substantially and is unnecessary really if you get down to it.
Super Moderator
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 37,379
Likes: 1,863
From: Frederick, MD
Went to a RV show at the Dulles Expo Center, Chantilly, VA yesterday.
All the Airstreams and several of the others had Goodyear Endurance tires on them.
Course several still had the China bombs as well, but they are making their way into the manufacture process it would appear.
All the Airstreams and several of the others had Goodyear Endurance tires on them.
Course several still had the China bombs as well, but they are making their way into the manufacture process it would appear.
Trending Topics
Thread Starter
|
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 27,351
Likes: 5,945
From: Lake Hartwell, GA
Went to a RV show at the Dulles Expo Center, Chantilly, VA yesterday.
All the Airstreams and several of the others had Goodyear Endurance tires on them.
Course several still had the China bombs as well, but they are making their way into the manufacture process it would appear.
All the Airstreams and several of the others had Goodyear Endurance tires on them.
Course several still had the China bombs as well, but they are making their way into the manufacture process it would appear.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!
Michael S. Palmer
Laughing Gas
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 960
Likes: 4
I have a couple of concerns about the Sailuns, they are below.
- I cannot say for certain that my rims are capable of withstanding 100-110 PSI. I tried to contact the manufacturer and received no response. I tried to contact Saliun and received information stating that I could run them at 80 PSI, but they would not be up to the sidewall strength that they should be.
Golfmedik was nice enough to post this chart in another thread for me.
As you can see, the PSI rating goes down, but I don't know if this is just to show at what PSI the tire is considered to be in for the different rating (C, D, E, etc), or if this means that the tire could safely be ran at the lower PSI. For me personally, I am not comfortable with inflating a 110 PSI tire to 80 PSI and then trying to turn or back into a spot on that sidewall that may not be up to the task.
- Some on the internet claim that the rim PSI rating is negligible and what really sets the max PSI on the rim is the valve stem. I don't know for sure about that either, just know what I have read. Again, I don't want to push a rim that is rated to run at 80 PSI up to 110 PSI just to see what happens.
- Some claim that the Sailuns running at 110 PSI are too stiff of a tire for a trailer rated to run at 80 PSI. They cause the body/living space of the camper to get "beat up" too much, or more than they would or did on the 80 PSI tires. Again, I don't know if this is true and I have not seen it first hand. Just passing along my thoughts. The last thing I want to do is make something worse by trying to make it better.
- I have not taken a wheel completely off my trailer yet to verify 100% that they are not capable of running the 110 PSI Sailun, but from what I could see the only information stamped on the inside of the wheel is this.
I could upgrade to 8 lug wheels, but doing this so I can run the Sailun tires seems a bit silly to me. The price would increase substantially and is unnecessary really if you get down to it.
Thread Starter
|
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 27,351
Likes: 5,945
From: Lake Hartwell, GA
Absolutely, you are welcome. I have not heard of a failure either, but I would not want to be "that guy" that was running a Sailun at 80 PSI and things go bad when I am on the road. This sole thought has me leaning toward the GY Endurance. I think they have come down in price a bit too, so that is good.
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,834
Likes: 25
From: Middle Tn.
I've been running the Carlisles for 3 years now with no problems and no abnormal wear.
More Turbo
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 562
Likes: 89
I put the Goodyear Endurance tires on my rig last fall and I have about 1000 miles on them over two trips with no issues at all. While I did upgrade wheels from the stock 15" that came on my trailer with the China Bombs on them to 16" wheels, the difference in weight between the new wheel and tire combination and the old one was pretty astounding, probably on the order of 12-15 pounds each.
I commented on running the Sailuns at 110 psi in the other thread the OP had going, but didn't necessarily articulate my position exceptionally well. At the end of the day, the suspension on your trailer isn't all that different than the suspension on your truck, except that it likely doesn't have shocks. Running a Load Range G tire like the Sailun aired to max pressure on your trailer would be very similar to doing the same thing on your truck, especially if the GVWR of each vehicle is reasonably similar. I know that I wouldn't want to ride in a Super Duty with Load Range G tires aired up to 110 psi because you would feel every small bump in the road.
I commented on running the Sailuns at 110 psi in the other thread the OP had going, but didn't necessarily articulate my position exceptionally well. At the end of the day, the suspension on your trailer isn't all that different than the suspension on your truck, except that it likely doesn't have shocks. Running a Load Range G tire like the Sailun aired to max pressure on your trailer would be very similar to doing the same thing on your truck, especially if the GVWR of each vehicle is reasonably similar. I know that I wouldn't want to ride in a Super Duty with Load Range G tires aired up to 110 psi because you would feel every small bump in the road.
Thread Starter
|
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 27,351
Likes: 5,945
From: Lake Hartwell, GA
Thank you for your contribution to the thread and restating your thoughts. Your point of the Sailun tires being too stiff is valid and well taken. I didn't want to bring the original post back to the top or piggyback on that one because I have pretty much decided that the Sailun is not the right tire for my application.
Although, I did want to seek out information based on first had experience, or second hand (opinions read on other forums) experience on the GY Endurance tires.
Although, I did want to seek out information based on first had experience, or second hand (opinions read on other forums) experience on the GY Endurance tires.
Lead Driver
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 8,653
Likes: 4,736
From: Itinerant
I put the Goodyear Endurance tires on my rig last fall and I have about 1000 miles on them over two trips with no issues at all. While I did upgrade wheels from the stock 15" that came on my trailer with the China Bombs on them to 16" wheels, the difference in weight between the new wheel and tire combination and the old one was pretty astounding, probably on the order of 12-15 pounds each.
I commented on running the Sailuns at 110 psi in the other thread the OP had going, but didn't necessarily articulate my position exceptionally well. At the end of the day, the suspension on your trailer isn't all that different than the suspension on your truck, except that it likely doesn't have shocks. Running a Load Range G tire like the Sailun aired to max pressure on your trailer would be very similar to doing the same thing on your truck, especially if the GVWR of each vehicle is reasonably similar. I know that I wouldn't want to ride in a Super Duty with Load Range G tires aired up to 110 psi because you would feel every small bump in the road.
I commented on running the Sailuns at 110 psi in the other thread the OP had going, but didn't necessarily articulate my position exceptionally well. At the end of the day, the suspension on your trailer isn't all that different than the suspension on your truck, except that it likely doesn't have shocks. Running a Load Range G tire like the Sailun aired to max pressure on your trailer would be very similar to doing the same thing on your truck, especially if the GVWR of each vehicle is reasonably similar. I know that I wouldn't want to ride in a Super Duty with Load Range G tires aired up to 110 psi because you would feel every small bump in the road.
