Random long crank
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Man, it seems like a good number of people didn’t get what they wanted for Christmas this year, people arguing in all different threads. Glad I’m immune.
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I’m a curmudgeon all year long.
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I’m a curmudgeon all year long.
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Funny thing is I really wasn't looking to argue just posting what helped my truck start normally again and that doing any recommended updates on the high pressure oil system can't hurt. Regardless of other related issues that may be causing the long crank. For me it's customer satisfaction and long term reliability. But hey to each there own I take my carrier choice seriously.
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Times money keyboard warrior honestly guys like you never pay my bills so it is what it is !! Quite ignorant of you to not at least take care of the OEM Ford. Recommend high pressure oil leak updates on top of taking care of what issue he may or may not find good luck with your truck mine runs great!
Please see post #14 stating "it is a good idea to install them as soon as you get a chance." where I clearly did recommend taking care of the OEM Ford w/ the updated dummy plugs.
That said, I am glad we have another professional resource on the forum, I just think it is important to weigh all the symptoms and not regretting that position. It is unfortunate that having a different opinion seems to be taken personally.
Getting back to the important thing ... helping the OP ... it would be interesting to confirm the 0.2v ICP reading was cranking or KOEO. Assuming it is cranking, there are a number of things that can cause that (dummy plugs being high on the list as was pointed out), but there are also other things. Assuming you (dieselrich) get to the point of having the valve covers off, it would be wise to do an air test IMO ...just to avoid removing them more than once.
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Well I guess I will point the tone out directly - see above.
Please see post #14 stating "it is a good idea to install them as soon as you get a chance." where I did recommend taking care of the OEM Ford w/ the updated dummy plugs.
That said, I am glad we have another professional resource on the forum, I just think it is important to weigh all the symptoms and not regretting that position. It is unfortunate that having a different opinion seems to be taken personally.
Getting back to the important thing ... helping the OP ... it would be interesting to confirm the 0.2v ICP reading was cranking or KOEO. Assuming it is cranking, there are a number of things that can cause that (dummy plugs being high on the list as you pointed out), but there are also other things. Assuming you (dieselrich) get to the point of having the valve covers off, it would be wise to do an air test IMO.
Please see post #14 stating "it is a good idea to install them as soon as you get a chance." where I did recommend taking care of the OEM Ford w/ the updated dummy plugs.
That said, I am glad we have another professional resource on the forum, I just think it is important to weigh all the symptoms and not regretting that position. It is unfortunate that having a different opinion seems to be taken personally.
Getting back to the important thing ... helping the OP ... it would be interesting to confirm the 0.2v ICP reading was cranking or KOEO. Assuming it is cranking, there are a number of things that can cause that (dummy plugs being high on the list as you pointed out), but there are also other things. Assuming you (dieselrich) get to the point of having the valve covers off, it would be wise to do an air test IMO.
Ok you win give it a rest already.......
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From: Salt Lake City, utah
I did notice that in the last video his IPR% hit83 so he does ha e a leak somewhere. First start today min ht 30% and fires right off.
He does need to post his sensor readings like EOT ECT BARO MAP TFT IPR ICP ICPv EBP KOEO.
He does need to post his sensor readings like EOT ECT BARO MAP TFT IPR ICP ICPv EBP KOEO.
Fleet Owner
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One thing that has bit me in the past is remembering that the IPR is commanded and not necessarily representing an actual position. Makes an air test important because a plugged IPR can act similarly.
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Will the oil affect cranking times, or is that more how the truck runs after starting? I didn't see anywhere where OP posted what oil he has in. I'm running 15W40 now (haven't had a chance to switch back to Rotella T6), with temps similar to what OP said, and it takes significantly longer to start this winter than last winter. Usually 6-8 seconds or so rather than the usual 3-5, and it runs rougher on a cold start too until it has a few minutes to build some heat. Plugging in the block helps lower the start time a bit as well as improve stiction and rough running on start up.
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