FX4 package, worth it?
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I live in North Georgia and the dealers around me order the fx4 package on nearly all of their super duty trucks.
I'm beginning to see more and more of the new super duty's on road and I'd say 9 out of 10 have the fx4 package. I'm guessing if you don't want the package included on your truck you would most likely have to order it yourself, at least in my area. Are you guys seeing this where you live as well?
I'm beginning to see more and more of the new super duty's on road and I'd say 9 out of 10 have the fx4 package. I'm guessing if you don't want the package included on your truck you would most likely have to order it yourself, at least in my area. Are you guys seeing this where you live as well?
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I live in North Georgia and the dealers around me order the fx4 package on nearly all of their super duty trucks.
I'm beginning to see more and more of the new super duty's on road and I'd say 9 out of 10 have the fx4 package. I'm guessing if you don't want the package included on your truck you would most likely have to order it yourself, at least in my area. Are you guys seeing this where you live as well?
I'm beginning to see more and more of the new super duty's on road and I'd say 9 out of 10 have the fx4 package. I'm guessing if you don't want the package included on your truck you would most likely have to order it yourself, at least in my area. Are you guys seeing this where you live as well?
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New guy here and just read through this whole thread. lol
My 2017 F250 Lariat Ultimate 6.7L SWB CCSB FX4 truck was on the lot. Had just about everything I wanted and was the right color too. We live in the Panhandle of Florida.
3.55 R/E with locker. We can drive on the beach here as well as almost any trail you go down for hunting or shooting is sand. The skid plates are something I didn't want to have to install. At 48 years old and fairly messed up from over 20 years in the Army, I value not only my time, but the physical demands placed on my back and neck. So the FX4 option was well worth it. Shocks, whatever. When these wear out, I'll put some good ones on it.
6.7L because my son lives in Denver and my daughter in Tennessee. We are going to buy an R/V when my wife retires in two years. So wanted the torque of the diesel for the mountains we will see as we visit kids and just generally travel about the Country. The diesel brake will be nice as well. However, I looked hard and long at the gas F250. I'm just grateful we can afford the choice.
While I've driven and maintained diesel's in the Army, this is my first personal vehicle with one. If it doesn't please me, I'll go to an F250 gasser in a few years.
It's all about what's worth what to whom.
My 2017 F250 Lariat Ultimate 6.7L SWB CCSB FX4 truck was on the lot. Had just about everything I wanted and was the right color too. We live in the Panhandle of Florida.
3.55 R/E with locker. We can drive on the beach here as well as almost any trail you go down for hunting or shooting is sand. The skid plates are something I didn't want to have to install. At 48 years old and fairly messed up from over 20 years in the Army, I value not only my time, but the physical demands placed on my back and neck. So the FX4 option was well worth it. Shocks, whatever. When these wear out, I'll put some good ones on it.
6.7L because my son lives in Denver and my daughter in Tennessee. We are going to buy an R/V when my wife retires in two years. So wanted the torque of the diesel for the mountains we will see as we visit kids and just generally travel about the Country. The diesel brake will be nice as well. However, I looked hard and long at the gas F250. I'm just grateful we can afford the choice.
While I've driven and maintained diesel's in the Army, this is my first personal vehicle with one. If it doesn't please me, I'll go to an F250 gasser in a few years.
It's all about what's worth what to whom.
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Glad it was helpful
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New guy here and just read through this whole thread. lol
My 2017 F250 Lariat Ultimate 6.7L SWB CCSB FX4 truck was on the lot. Had just about everything I wanted and was the right color too. We live in the Panhandle of Florida.
3.55 R/E with locker. We can drive on the beach here as well as almost any trail you go down for hunting or shooting is sand. The skid plates are something I didn't want to have to install. At 48 years old and fairly messed up from over 20 years in the Army, I value not only my time, but the physical demands placed on my back and neck. So the FX4 option was well worth it. Shocks, whatever. When these wear out, I'll put some good ones on it.
6.7L because my son lives in Denver and my daughter in Tennessee. We are going to buy an R/V when my wife retires in two years. So wanted the torque of the diesel for the mountains we will see as we visit kids and just generally travel about the Country. The diesel brake will be nice as well. However, I looked hard and long at the gas F250. I'm just grateful we can afford the choice.
While I've driven and maintained diesel's in the Army, this is my first personal vehicle with one. If it doesn't please me, I'll go to an F250 gasser in a few years.
It's all about what's worth what to whom.
My 2017 F250 Lariat Ultimate 6.7L SWB CCSB FX4 truck was on the lot. Had just about everything I wanted and was the right color too. We live in the Panhandle of Florida.
3.55 R/E with locker. We can drive on the beach here as well as almost any trail you go down for hunting or shooting is sand. The skid plates are something I didn't want to have to install. At 48 years old and fairly messed up from over 20 years in the Army, I value not only my time, but the physical demands placed on my back and neck. So the FX4 option was well worth it. Shocks, whatever. When these wear out, I'll put some good ones on it.
6.7L because my son lives in Denver and my daughter in Tennessee. We are going to buy an R/V when my wife retires in two years. So wanted the torque of the diesel for the mountains we will see as we visit kids and just generally travel about the Country. The diesel brake will be nice as well. However, I looked hard and long at the gas F250. I'm just grateful we can afford the choice.
While I've driven and maintained diesel's in the Army, this is my first personal vehicle with one. If it doesn't please me, I'll go to an F250 gasser in a few years.
It's all about what's worth what to whom.
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Yeah this Forum saved me a little, but on the flip side... it made me spend a whole lot more!. All in a good way, and my Retrax Pro MX tonneau was acquired b/c of all the great reviewers here. Come to think about it... just about all my add-on farkle ideas came from here!
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Not to mention the $1000’s in repair costs when anything breaks.
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I just talked to a very good shop. They ask for $4000 down payment before they'll even start trouble shooting the fuel system on a diesel engine. They are flooded with diesel repairs, and can't waste time tearing into trucks without getting paid. So they ask for a down payment for repairs to start. LOL. A down payment! Think more people will be switching to gas soon?
In this case, it's a Duramax making white smoke, crank no-start condition. Most likely stuck injector, lift pump, or IP. And if it's just the lift pump, it's a pretty safe bet that the IP is pretty much eaten up. Duramax's ain't doing so hot with ultra low sulfur fuel. You have to add a lubricity additive to them.
In this case, it's a Duramax making white smoke, crank no-start condition. Most likely stuck injector, lift pump, or IP. And if it's just the lift pump, it's a pretty safe bet that the IP is pretty much eaten up. Duramax's ain't doing so hot with ultra low sulfur fuel. You have to add a lubricity additive to them.
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I just talked to a very good shop. They ask for $4000 down payment before they'll even start trouble shooting the fuel system on a diesel engine. They are flooded with diesel repairs, and can't waste time tearing into trucks without getting paid. So they ask for a down payment for repairs to start. LOL. A down payment! Think more people will be switching to gas soon?
In this case, it's a Duramax making white smoke, crank no-start condition. Most likely stuck injector, lift pump, or IP. And if it's just the lift pump, it's a pretty safe bet that the IP is pretty much eaten up. Duramax's ain't doing so hot with ultra low sulfur fuel. You have to add a lubricity additive to them.
In this case, it's a Duramax making white smoke, crank no-start condition. Most likely stuck injector, lift pump, or IP. And if it's just the lift pump, it's a pretty safe bet that the IP is pretty much eaten up. Duramax's ain't doing so hot with ultra low sulfur fuel. You have to add a lubricity additive to them.
If the diesel engine has a fuel pressure sensor (which all the 6.7L Fords have) then the engine is electronically prevented from revving with a low pressure condition to protect the HPFP.
White smoke in a Duramax is likely a failed injector, not a big deal unless it's an LB7, which requires removing the valve covers to access the injectors.
But as far as down payment, that could go either way. In a lot of cases, it doesn't require that much tear down to determine how expensive the repair will be and ask the customer if they want to proceed. A down payment at that time might be in order if they do wish to proceed. But keep in mind, the mechanic also has possession of their vehicle and could take legal ownership through a mechanic's lien if the customer refused or couldn't pay.
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That only works if the customer OK's the repairs,and this shop ain't got time to repo peoples cars. That would be terrible. In this case they make you OK $4000 before getting started, and that only covers injectors and the lift pump, easy stuff. The ISP will be a separate quote for another $4400 IIRC. That's a harsh pill to swallow.
It's kinda sad really. I can crank an old Bosche or Stanadyne pump 10 minutes, nearly dry, without damaging it.
It's kinda sad really. I can crank an old Bosche or Stanadyne pump 10 minutes, nearly dry, without damaging it.
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I just talked to a very good shop. They ask for $4000 down payment before they'll even start trouble shooting the fuel system on a diesel engine. They are flooded with diesel repairs, and can't waste time tearing into trucks without getting paid. So they ask for a down payment for repairs to start. LOL. A down payment! Think more people will be switching to gas soon?
In this case, it's a Duramax making white smoke, crank no-start condition. Most likely stuck injector, lift pump, or IP. And if it's just the lift pump, it's a pretty safe bet that the IP is pretty much eaten up. Duramax's ain't doing so hot with ultra low sulfur fuel. You have to add a lubricity additive to them.
In this case, it's a Duramax making white smoke, crank no-start condition. Most likely stuck injector, lift pump, or IP. And if it's just the lift pump, it's a pretty safe bet that the IP is pretty much eaten up. Duramax's ain't doing so hot with ultra low sulfur fuel. You have to add a lubricity additive to them.
I still have a 2002 Duramax that I use for my winter commuter. First service ever was last winter when it needed a new high pressure fuel line and pump. Total bill was $1050 incl labor. Not bad for a truck giving me 15 years of service, never an issue (EVER!) other than oil, filter and tires.
With that being said, screw the gas engines in a HD truck, worthless to me of course and for when [and if?] the diesel needs any major service, it can be had now for reasonable pricing. Especially now, compared to the 80's when I first started running diesel pickups.
Resale value will offset what you spend on the diesel, I've never felt that I didn't get well over compensated for having the diesel in a prior owned HD pickup.
As for a normal (non HD) pickup, I'd have a gas engine for sure. Just makes sense for that light duty service.
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The current pump is still made by Bosch, but it looks like a small V-Twin if you take it apart. Two pistons driven *by* a crank rather than driving the crank. But no different than any reciprocating engine, those pistons need lube. If you ran an engine without oil, it would quickly be damaged and eventually destroyed. These pumps are no different, except even small shrapnel from piston damage can cause further damage downstream.
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I just talked to a very good shop. They ask for $4000 down payment before they'll even start trouble shooting the fuel system on a diesel engine. They are flooded with diesel repairs, and can't waste time tearing into trucks without getting paid. So they ask for a down payment for repairs to start. LOL. A down payment! Think more people will be switching to gas soon?
In this case, it's a Duramax making white smoke, crank no-start condition. Most likely stuck injector, lift pump, or IP. And if it's just the lift pump, it's a pretty safe bet that the IP is pretty much eaten up. Duramax's ain't doing so hot with ultra low sulfur fuel. You have to add a lubricity additive to them.
In this case, it's a Duramax making white smoke, crank no-start condition. Most likely stuck injector, lift pump, or IP. And if it's just the lift pump, it's a pretty safe bet that the IP is pretty much eaten up. Duramax's ain't doing so hot with ultra low sulfur fuel. You have to add a lubricity additive to them.
You do know the '11-'16 Duramax and Powerstroke have the same fuel system right??? CP4.2 Only difference is GM stands behind warranty vs Ford that makes customers eat the 14k bill...
If you want to bash another manufacturer then bring a valid claim...
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The day the manufacturers and the EPA figure out how to make the new diesels reliable again is the day I become interested, for now I will take a gas guzzling, $0 option, underpowered, stone reliable, cheap to service, instant heat, 6.2/6.0...