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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Copper.Farm
Ordered online through GenuinePartsGiant, expensive shipping but cheaper than driving the 160 mile loop to my closest Ford Parts Counter. I try to support the local guys but this is just too small and specialized.
I appreciate the website. I am gonna add this to the long list of things I want to buy.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 11:19 AM
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I just spliced in about 2 feet of the same gauge wire, used heat shrink/solder butt connectors and covered new wire in some wire loom. Keep in mind...unless you disconnect the batteries to do this....only cut one wire at a time if you go this route.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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I’m going to call tomorrow and attempt to cancel my order for that extension wiring. I think a dozen 1/2 inch grommets across the front would be a lot cheaper and would ensure a fair amount of soft flowing air.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sxrfun
I just spliced in about 2 feet of the same gauge wire, used heat shrink/solder butt connectors and covered new wire in some wire loom. Keep in mind...unless you disconnect the batteries to do this....only cut one wire at a time if you go this route.
I had honestly thought about this myself. Wish there was a place you could just order the plastic connectors and then I could make an extension that looks stock. I might just do this then.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 08:23 AM
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If you stagger the splices so that the connectors aren't beside each other and create a large mass......by the time you cover the wires in the black plastic loom, you can't tell it's been spliced in and it looks stock.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sxrfun
If you stagger the splices so that the connectors aren't beside each other and create a large mass......by the time you cover the wires in the black plastic loom, you can't tell it's been spliced in and it looks stock.
Does the bracket the sensor uses have a hole you can use lower?

Also do you have a picture where you relocated the sensor?
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 03:44 PM
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I just zip tied the sensor to the black frame inside the bumper where the tow hook comes through the bumper. Positioned the sensor so the tip sits in opening/area just above the tow hook. Clear as mud? lol If not I can grab a photo maybe Saturday....I'm on shift tomorrow, and it's getting dark here now.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2017 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sxrfun
I just zip tied the sensor to the black frame inside the bumper where the tow hook comes through the bumper. Positioned the sensor so the tip sits in opening/area just above the tow hook. Clear as mud? lol If not I can grab a photo maybe Saturday....I'm on shift tomorrow, and it's getting dark here now.
That is enough mud to get me through
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 02:18 PM
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This is a picture of my digital gages:




With the grill cover on, true outside temps of 28F, fully heat soaked motor, here are my observations:

- intake air is an SAE PID that is pulling the air temp at MAF
- manifold air is PID 2216a8 and is the sensor on the intake manifold

Around town at 25mph I saw intake air temps as high as 95F, no real air flowing in the engine bay.

At 60mph I saw intake temps around 45F, seemed there was good air flow in the engine bay.

At 70mph I saw intake temps as high as 60F, stalled air in the engine bay.

I’ll have my grommet kit on Tuesday and then i’ll Re-create my observations with a little more air flowing through the grill cover. As an FYI, earlier this week I saw intake temps of 105F around town as I was running errands while the outside temp was 32F, this is the primary reason I’m going to add grommets to the grill cover.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 02:44 PM
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Copper,

Isn't that the result we're looking for with the cover on?

Just wondering what the target is that your looking for. The ratios don't appear alarming to me as we have closely monitored temperatures in the summer months that don't do any harm. Just curious and learning.

Thanx for the posts btw.

Denny
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 05:12 PM
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Obviously, your experiences might vary.

Summary:
- My grill cover is now folded and tucked behind the seat until temperatures are much colder than 28F.

Detail Observations:
The following are my observations, all conducted in motor heat soaked conditions with outside temperatures at 28F to 30F.



The picture above represents my digital games after the following conditions:
- pushed the truck up to 80mph, observed my coolant temps pop from 195F to 205F after the intake air temp went > 80F. Then I slowed the truck to 70mph and the coolant and intake air temps never recovered.



The picture above represents my digital gages after many miles at 70mph followed by exiting the freeway for fuel, which was less then 1/4 mile away. This is the picture as I pulled up to the pump.




The picture above represents my digital gages with the grill cover removed after driving many miles at 70mph.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2017 | 05:18 PM
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The under the hood temperatures were very warm to the touch confirming the 115F at MAF.

The most noticeable difference was exhaust temps.

My conclusion is that the grill cover helps to create a nice warm summer day under the hood, which means more turbo to make pressure because the intake is warmer with the net result of warmer exhaust temperatures.

After this, personally I would not tow weight with the grill cover on unless the outside temperatures are well below 28F.

Kind of fun exploring all of this!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 09:24 AM
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-6F this morning, perfect conditions for re-installing my grill cover!

Too funny.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 11:02 AM
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I was driving on the highway with the cover on yesterday. Oil temp was running 204-206 degrees and coolant temp was 198 degrees according to my SCT Livewire.
 
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