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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by reamer
I was told by a glass professional that you can not "glue this kind of glass" you must use the butyl tape, Problems will occur down the road by gluing, up to and including cracking....And also the aluminum trim applies constant "minor pressure" on the glass at all times.
I have heard stories of Glass guys say it was against the law to use the tape even if it came that way from the factory.
Tell them to walk as they don't know crap!
You are right on gluing the non glue type glass.

As for the trim it may have pressure on the glass but has NOTHING to do on holding the glass in.
DMV was going to fail me because the car had no trim, just painted and did not have the clips.
I beeted on the glass from inside out to show it would not move.
I then asked to showe in the book the trim had to be on there.
Guess what.... he could not but did note on the paperwork no trim on front glass. That glass is still in place leak free after 28+ years.
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 08:47 AM
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The owner of the auto glass store said there is no way of getting it off. And I believe him b/c I spent 30 minutes scraping away with a utility blade and all I was left with was a dull blade. He said they installed the wrong windshield..I guess later model fords had there vin in a different spot? So the gap in the black strip going around the perimeter of the windshield is in the wrong spot. The black strip definitely looks factory---it doesn't look like it was just "applied" in a shop. the lines/curves are too smooth.
Its in the shop now..$225+tax.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rodp14
The owner of the auto glass store said there is no way of getting it off. And I believe him b/c I spent 30 minutes scraping away with a utility blade and all I was left with was a dull blade. He said they installed the wrong windshield..I guess later model fords had there vin in a different spot? So the gap in the black strip going around the perimeter of the windshield is in the wrong spot. The black strip definitely looks factory---it doesn't look like it was just "applied" in a shop. the lines/curves are too smooth.
Its in the shop now..$225+tax.
I did not know or realize the newer glue in glass would fit our trucks and that is what you had.

can they not break it when pulling it and if so are they giving you money for it or you taking it back home to sell?
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 02:42 PM
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So I finally got my 83 F-250 running. Here in Kansas we do not have vehicle inspections. Instead when you wish to register a vehicle for the first time in the state you first have to get a "Vin Inspection."

All they do is make sure your windshield VIN (it's not on the windshield!) matches the VIN on your title.

Well...someone before me must of replaced the windshield and put the wrong one on b/c the black going around the perimeter covers up my VIN

They turned me away and told me I had to get a new windshield so they can see the VIN
Ridiculous!

There is a VIN printed on the inside door Certification Label .. but they said the state requires the VIN to be visible thru the windshield.
You do not have to replace the windshield! The solution is so simple, a cave man could do it.

The VIN is stamped on the VIN plate, located on the left corner of the dash, visible thru the windshield.

If it cannot be read thru the windshield, place a mirror in front of the VIN plate on the inside of the windshield, then read it that way.
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VIN on Warranty Plate (1963/79: riveted to the left door face below the latch) or printed on the Certification Label (1980/91: glued to the left door face below the latch) known as the Warranty Number.

FoMoCo said it was not for title or registration purposes (as it was too easy to change).

The usual reason: When people replaced damaged left doors with used doors, the Warranty Numbers (VIN's) would no longer match.

And btw: There was no such thing as a VIN plate on any 1979 or earlier Truck, Bronco or Econoline!

The first year for the VIN plate was 1968, but thru 1979, it was only installed on cars, as it was not required for Truck/Bronco/Econoline until 1980.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 03:15 PM
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^^^sorry I didn't get all your terminology right.
But you must of not of read the post..I could of easily devised a way so they could see it--prob would of taken off my dash..But the whole point is that they have to see it from the OUTSIDE..can't use a mirror on the inside because if a cop had to read the vin he would not have access to the inside. Not saying I agree with their assertion but that is the law-- I could of argued til I was blue in the face but it does not get you anywhere when you are dealing with a state employee.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rodp14
^^^sorry I didn't get all your terminology right.

But you must of not of read the post. I could of easily devised a way so they could see it--prob would of taken off my dash..But the whole point is that they have to see it from the OUTSIDE..can't use a mirror on the inside because if a cop had to read the vin he would not have access to the inside. Not saying I agree with their assertion but that is the law-- I could of argued til I was blue in the face but it does not get you anywhere when you are dealing with a state employee.
I read the entire post. If the state DMV inspector could not read the VIN thru the windshield, could have used a mirror placed in front of the VIN plate to read it.

How many cops would need to read the VIN plate? The only circumstance I can think of if is...if they were looking for stolen trucks.

Anyone with half a brain that would steal one of these trucks would either remove the VIN plate or make a new VIN plate out of a pie tin (or similar), stamp a VIN on it and install it.

30 some years ago, a major theft ring involving collector cars was broken up here in LA LA Land.

The two crooks were making new Warranty Plates out of pie tins, stamping VIN's on them that matched Warranty Plates taken from junked cars, then painting them body color "to cover up the sins."

The two crooks had used the junkyard Warranty Plates to title the cars by stealing the CA DMV's blue pencils and signing the inspection reports off, using the name Chief Dan Matthews CHP

Then they would steal cars that matched the junkyard Warranty Plates. Most of the cars were sold to unsuspecting buyers, but they also rented some of them.

They got caught because they rented one of the cars to the TV show Happy Days. The owner of the car (faded red 1953 Ford convertible w/a Coronado kit) was watching the show, recognized her car!

When the cops raided the two crooks residence in the small town of Independence (out in the middle of nowhere) CA, they found several shoeboxes full of titles and matching Warranty Plates and several stolen cars being 'prepped').

There was a 3rd crook, he worked for a gas station that had a tow truck. When the cars were stolen (mostly at night), he would tow them to Independence.

He got off with a "slap on the wrist" by turning states evidence.

And btw: Chief Dan Matthews was actor Broderick Crawford's name on the TV show Highway Patrol!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2017 | 04:57 PM
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A common thing to do is steal a vehicle, and then go through the parking lot and swap license plates. Of course there is a APB on the stolen vehicle, but tag number won't match. That is why they now want to know the color of the vehicle on the registration.

If they happen to figure out the tag doesn't match the vehicle description they are going to want to pull them over, and it's probably nice to be able to glance at and write down the vin to verify what in the world vehicle they are actually looking at, and if it's the stolen vehicle. I can see their point, during all that mess I would not want to have to spend 30 minutes trying to see the vin.
 
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