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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KULTULZ
Something is wrong here...

The FORD ONLINE CDP shows 6853 as the Basic Service PN.

Did the counter person show you (and printed off a copy) of the Parts Ill?
This the same thing I found about 5 years ago........searched everywhere for it. Even had my good buddy at a dealership look. He also found that the part wis no longer available and a few years after that .....you had to it with the valve cover which was also no available anymore. That is why I went with J-B Weld.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CPaulsen

This the same thing I found about 5 years ago........searched everywhere for it. Even had my good buddy at a dealership look. He also found that the part wis no longer available and a few years after that .....you had to it with the valve cover which was also no available anymore.

That is why I went with J-B Weld.
...hmmph...

Did you save the PN he first gave you by any chance?

One of the senior users here that has access to the CDP is going to have to chase this one down. When you GOOGLE a PN and it shows absolutely nothing, the PN must be incorrect.

Both the rocker cover and air inlet tube must have nipples so a replacement should be able to be fabricated (IMO) out of PVC hose and a 90 degree elbow.

I am also having difficulty believing once the only way the hose was serviced was in the rocker arm cover asm. Something very wrong here and this is (was) a common occurrence in their cataloging.

This tube supplies fresh filtered air to the crankcase ventilation system and has to work correctly. If leaking, it can also affect fuel trim.

THANX for the clarification.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:17 PM
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I have had no face-to-face dealings with any parts person. I began my search online at www.fordparts.com. That is where I was able to find my part #

What is wrong is that the assumption being made is that I am looking for the hose. I am not.

While it may be hard to see in the illustration, and not able to be seen in my photo, the part I seek goes into the 6853 hose at the valve cover end. It is in fact shown in the illustration, but no part # is provided.

The green line in my attached and modified illustration points to the part in question. And while the part shown in the illustration may look similar to a PCV valve, I know for a fact it is not. It is a hollow tube or nipple which Ford calls a crankcase vent hose connector.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KULTULZ
...hmmph...

One of the senior users here that has access to the CDP is going to have to chase this one down. When you GOOGLE a PN and it shows absolutely nothing, the PN must be incorrect.

This tube supplies fresh filtered air to the crankcase ventilation system and has to work correctly. If leaking, it can also affect fuel trim.
What is the "CDP" you reference?

Yes, it is affecting fuel trim. I am getting a P0170 code.

In terms of fabbing a solution; so far JB Weld seems to be the simplest, surest and least expensive solution.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:40 PM
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OH!

I see said the blind man after he stuck his hand into horse sh!at...

If that Ill is the latest and correct, the actual connector might be listed under Basic PN 6582 (rocker cover) usually at the end of the 6582 listing and either a Standard PN or a referral to a Chassis Basic PN (if serviced separately).

I understand now why you said it came with the rocker cover.

Parts Ill are usually generic, i.e. they give just enough info to direct you to the correct text. CDP searching with the VIN goes to one exact point whereas with a paper or microfiche catalog you could hunt around for several different applications under the same Basic PN.

A shop manual may have a more detailed Ill (Engineering).

You need someone knowledgeable and caring to search the system.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by D.Yaros

What is the "CDP" you reference?
That is the parts cataloging computer you see on the counter. FORD released them so the dealer would not have pay a high wage for an experienced counter-person.

Yes, it is affecting fuel trim. I am getting a P0170 code.
It is sucking outside air after the MAF/MAP and the ECM does not see/realize the increased outside air volume.

In terms of fabbing a solution; so far JB Weld seems to be the simplest, surest and least expensive solution.
Whatever means you deem necessary. It has to be repaired one way or another.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2017 | 07:38 PM
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When my connector split...I got codes PO170 and PO174 which were lean on both banks...hence....J-B Weld to seal it up.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2017 | 12:39 PM
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In my humble opinion, the 2002 V10 Crankcase Vent Hose Connector was not one of Ford's better ideas! A sad commentary on this is the fact that a "shade tree mechanic" is left with no choice but to improvise/improve upon Ford's original design!

For those not old enough to remember -

“Ford has a better idea” was the auto company’s ad slogan in the late-1960s.
 
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Originally Posted by D.Yaros
No matter what Gates/Rock Auto, et al. say, that is not the crankcase vent hose connector found on my 2002 V10.

I was able to track down a possible replacement locally, at a salvage yard. Problem is it is from a 2000 V10, and the replacement consists of an entire valve cover. In that year the crankcase vent connector was a steel nipple that was press fitted into the valve cover. By 2002 Ford modified the set up by making the connector a plastic nipple that snapped in. Cheaper production cost I presume?

I can get that valve cover for $50 if I remove it, and for $100 if I have them remove it. Too much money and too much work as far as I am concerned.

So, it now appears I shall be going with "Plan B": JB Plastic Weld. A lot less money and a lot less work to achieve equal or better results.
My 2000 f250 v10 has the plastic on and all the tabs broke off so it was just hanging off and running like crap. I put hi-temp silicone. So far, so good.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2022 | 04:06 PM
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I was replacing Idle Air Valve and I broke the connector on my 2001 Excursion V10 crankcase vent hose too. Searched and searched for a replacement with no luck. JB weld to the rescue it looks like. Thanks for the advice.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by D.Yaros
While I am not the brightest bulb on the block, particularly when it comes to anything Ford (as this is my first ever Ford in 55 years of vehicle ownership), I was able to find the original part number.

It is:
Part No. YC2Z-6A668-AA
Base No. 6A668
Part Description Crankcase Vent Hose Connector 6.8L

I would also point out the part is -NOT- a PCV valve. Nor is it a hose. It is a nipple, which Ford calls a connector.

I have not been able to find any pics online of the part.

While I did try to x-ref the part with Dorman/Gates/others, I had no luck. Maybe someone with greater Ford parts knowledge and internet search skills, with the above part # will have better luck (success) than I.

I am also aware that this path has been trod by others. What msg traffic on the subj I have found here and elsewhere did not contain or yield a solution to this circumstance.

Nevermind the red circles etc, was trying to spell my name

This cheap part that breaks when u try to pull pvc hose off, is the crankcase vent hose "connector". I was unable to find, so cobbled . Jb weld Use some urethane and get surfaces clean/free of earl/dirt. Works just fine. Won world championships (redline 5 min / tranny drop bracket) with my whip , using the jb weld method of reattachment. Took home a nice 310# stoolcrusher too that night. What a breakfast she ate!

Hi, im cheap piece of shiz. I break so u can buy more parts
 
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Old Apr 16, 2023 | 08:41 PM
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Just broke this stupid connector while changing out original spark plugs on my 2002 F250. I've been working on cars 40+ years and this was not pleasant. Took me days to even figure out what this thing was. Today I failed to remove a driver-side valve cover at the junkyard from an E350 and then Excursion because I didn't bring enough tools...pretty much impossible without an 8mm deep well socket which I didn't have, so back to the junkyard I will go tomorrow. Because I'm fussy about things being right and am considering swapping in another valve cover rather than JB Weld my broken one back together. My junkyard charges $15 for a composite valve cover and of course the connector would be included. $10 for steel, $20 for aluminum.
 
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