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Old 05-30-2017, 02:33 PM
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Add Nivomat shocks?

Hi All,

Just towed with the new Expy (2017 Limited) and holy moly did it squat. The travel trailer is only ~4800# dry (which it was). I really wasn't expecting it to get that low, and it bounced all over as well.

I have the HD towing Pkg, added 3.73's, and have a WDH, so my towing cap is 9300/930

Is it possible to add the Nivomats or are there other modifications that need to be done? I'm hoping to just get a couple of shocks from Ford and swap them out. I wish I got them when I ordered the truck
 
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Old 05-30-2017, 04:30 PM
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If you have a WDH then it wasn't set up right. I can bring the rear bumper back up to stock height with an 8500# toy hauler hooked on the back. It does squat it about 4" first before I latch WDH bars the but I expect that with such a heavy trailer.

I think I've heard someone say on here before that it's not just as easy as swapping the rear shocks, something else is different in how they mount. I would think it should still be able to buy the parts.
 
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Old 05-30-2017, 04:37 PM
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You're right, it's not set up correctly. I'm just amazed the trailer dropped it THAT much. Technically, I shouldn't even need the WDH, but I sure am glad I have it. I just need to give it more distribution.

I did some research on a parts site and there are a few parts other than shocks needed to convert to Nivomat. The total comes to about $650 for everything.
 
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:32 PM
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That's not bad, except I've heard some negative feedback on this forum about peoples Nivomat shocks not bringing ride height back up to their expectations. Who knows there exact setup but if you can get what you already have to work with the WDH I'd try that for a while.
 
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:27 AM
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I know I read the same around some places which is why I decided against them. I'll readjust my WDH and see how it goes.

Thanks!
 
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:49 AM
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I see about a 1" drop pulling our 30' camper using a WDH setup. I'm good with that. Good luck with your adjustments!
 
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 89Rustang View Post
You're right, it's not set up correctly. I'm just amazed the trailer dropped it THAT much. Technically, I shouldn't even need the WDH, but I sure am glad I have it. I just need to give it more distribution.

I did some research on a parts site and there are a few parts other than shocks needed to convert to Nivomat. The total comes to about $650 for everything.
can you share the link or website where you found the parts? I have a 15 Expedition Limited (same gen as yours) and pull a 6000+ lb boat and the sag drives me crazy. Wish I could have found one in stock that came with it but I've never seen one equipped with them. I would like to convert mine if at all possible.
 
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:38 PM
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So I adjusted the WDH and it made a huge difference. I had to add 3 washers and adjust the hitch brackets. I also upgraded the rear sway bar and the wife says it corners MUCH better.
 
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:39 PM
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can you share the link or website where you found the parts? I have a 15 Expedition Limited (same gen as yours) and pull a 6000+ lb boat and the sag drives me crazy. Wish I could have found one in stock that came with it but I've never seen one equipped with them. I would like to convert mine if at all possible.

I used fordparts website. Here is the list I saved.

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Product Description

Price

Quantity

Total


Shock, RIGHT   
 Shock, RIGHT 

Part Number: EL1Z-18125-A


?Remove 
 $175.14           

  $350.28  
Spring, LEFT   
 Spring, LEFT 

Part Number: EL1Z-5560-A


?Remove 
 $71.97           

  $143.94  
Boot, RIGHT   
 Boot, RIGHT 

Part Number: EL1Z-18A047-A


?Remove 
 $11.38           

  $22.76  
Insulator, LEFT   
 Insulator, LEFT 

Part Number: EL1Z-5536-A


?Remove 
 $17.42           

  $34.84  
Upper Mount, LEFT   
 Upper Mount, LEFT 

Part Number: EL1Z-18A099-A


?Remove 
 $33.47           

  $66.94  
Washer, LEFT   
 Washer, LEFT 

Part Number: EL1Z-00810-A


?Remove 
 $2.06           

  $4.12  
Top Nut, RIGHT   
 Top Nut, RIGHT 

Part Number: -W520113-S441


?Remove 
 $3.00           

  $6.00  

?Continue Shopping ?Empty Cart  ?Update  


Subtotal Amount: $628.88
 
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Old 10-14-2017, 05:39 PM
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I upgraded to a 2016 King Ranch 4x4 without load leveling. Pulling a 2-horse trailer with about 700 pounds tongue weight, and it squats about 2". Not too bad, but I want to beef up the rear suspension. I don't want to go with a weight distribution system.

Here is what I would like:

1. 2" of lift to keep me from bottoming out in the sand at the beach.
2. 275/65/20's, which are 2" taller, for same reason. (I have 3.73 gears so I should be able to turn the taller tires.)
3. Stiffer rear suspension to avoid the squat when towing.

Does anyone have the perfect suspension solution for me? Advice on adding sumosprings to the coils?
 
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Old 10-16-2017, 09:32 AM
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The only lift I've found for the Expedition is from Readylift and it's 3" front and 2" rear and it's just strut spacers so it won't be any stiffer.

I'd like to here from someone that's installed the sumosprings too.
 
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