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Old May 20, 2017 | 01:43 PM
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If you order a crewcab longbed 4x4 with the 3.5 ecoboost. What is the largest payload available? I know there is a heavy payload option but not sure where you can find out the info what the payload will actually be with the configuration I mentioned above. Thanks
 
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Old May 21, 2017 | 10:58 AM
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Ford has a few pdf towing guides that have some info, but exact numbers depend on options. My supercrew, 6.5' box 3.5eb says 1900lb on the door sticker, but the more options you add it will change with vehicle weight. Max payload will up it some., max is 3200lb with the 5.0. Keep in mind max payload is only available with base packages.
 
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Old May 21, 2017 | 11:19 AM
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^^^ What he said ^^^

All sorts of things affect load carrying and towing. Wheels, tires, frame length, overall weight of the empty vehicle, which rear axle you have, which engine. The list goes on and on.

If you want the maximum, you probably want a regular cab, long box, or maybe the short box, and 18" tires. Plain Jane. OTOH, if you need a crew cab and a bunch of gee-gaws, then that will eat into your capacities.
 
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Old May 21, 2017 | 12:17 PM
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By SuperCrew long bed, you mean the 6.5' bed, right? Ford doesn't offer an 8' bed crew cab in an F150. You will have to order one. The only ones I've ever seen on a lot were white XL fleet special trucks. And those are very few and far between.

From Ford;

The Heavy-Duty Payload Package is available on F-150 XL, XLT, and LARIAT. Increases GVWR to 7600 lbs. on XL and 7850 lbs. on XLT and LARIAT for improved payload and towing.

Includes:
• 3.73 Electronic-locking rear-axle
• 9.75" gearset
• 36 Gallon Fuel tank
• LT245/70R17E BSW all-terrain tires (A/T) (XL only)
• LT275/65R18C OWL all-terrain tires (A/T) (XLT and LARIAT)
• Upgraded springs and auxiliary transmission oil cooler
• XL: 17" Silver Steel Heavy-Duty Payload Package wheels
• XLT/LARIAT: 18" Sliver Aluminum Heavy-Duty Payload Package wheels

Requires:
• Trailer Tow Package when ordered with 5.0L Engine
• Max Trailer Tow Package when ordered with 3.5L EcoBoost® Engine

Not available with:
• 2.7L V6 EcoBoost® engine
• 122” wheelbase on XL and XLT
• 145” wheelbase on XL, XLT and LARIAT
• XL/XLT Chrome Appearance Package
 
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Old May 21, 2017 | 01:41 PM
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Yes by long bed I mean 6.5 with the crewcab. I have an advantage by being able to order a fleet truck so according to the salesman I will still be able to Order some of the goodies that normally you can't. I am going to need at least 2500 payload. I am between 150-250 as far as my daily needs with my truck are concerned. I have driven f250's for 20 years but would like to stay away from the diesels this time but would like the torque curve of the ecoboost over the 6.2. Just not sure I can get the payload I need in a 150. This is my dilemma
 
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Old May 22, 2017 | 01:08 AM
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2017 F150 SCrew 6.5' bed with 3.5L EB...... Max Payload = 2630 lb.

Of course that is Max with GVWR max 7850 lbs.

Based on options, etc I would expect something above 2000 and approaching or near 2500 lbs.

For more info
(scroll down and click on "Specifications")
 
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Old May 22, 2017 | 07:26 AM
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Tell your salesman to use Commercial Vehicle Tools. They can build your exact truck with the options you want and it will give you a payload.

Not too many Fleet "Goodies", but you do get fleet pricing which is more stable throughout the year and certainly saves money compared to retail rebates for the first several months.

The 6.2 gas motor with the 4.30 gears and new transmission is a nice setup for good startability.
 
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Old May 23, 2017 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooftop
Yes by long bed I mean 6.5 with the crewcab. I have an advantage by being able to order a fleet truck so according to the salesman I will still be able to Order some of the goodies that normally you can't. I am going to need at least 2500 payload. I am between 150-250 as far as my daily needs with my truck are concerned. I have driven f250's for 20 years but would like to stay away from the diesels this time but would like the torque curve of the ecoboost over the 6.2. Just not sure I can get the payload I need in a 150. This is my dilemma
Have you made a decision on a HD F150? I too share a similar constant dilemma. I'm done with new diesels and while I enjoy the easy life in my 6.2's, I do miss some decent mpg. I've kicked around the idea of ordering the 2018 HD EB in a CC 6.5 bed.
Is there anyone out there using their 2017 3.5 EB as a work truck, in the same way a F250 would fit the job?
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 10:08 AM
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Have you made a decision on a HD F150? I too share a similar constant dilemma. I'm done with new diesels and while I enjoy the easy life in my 6.2's, I do miss some decent mpg. I've kicked around the idea of ordering the 2018 HD EB in a CC 6.5 bed.
Is there anyone out there using their 2017 3.5 EB as a work truck, in the same way a F250 would fit the job?
Raindesert I've read a lot of your posts and I think we have a lot in common for our daily needs in a truck. I have not decided what I am going to do yet. If I could get a superduty with an ecoboost it would be a no brainer. I need to sit down at the dealer and configure a hd f150 and see what I come up with. My problem is I always have a cap on and routinely put 1-2k in the bed and hook up a 6k trailer. Now this weight is not in there for along time and usually it's less than 20 miles from home so I think the 150 would work.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooftop
I have not decided what I am going to do yet.

I need to sit down at the dealer and configure a hd f150 and see what I come up with.
I'm in the same boat as both of you. I am currently in a 2006 F150 SCAB 4x4 with 5.4L. Planning to replace and would really like more payload/towing capacity and if possible more MPGs. I want to go to crew cab but will not give up the 6.5' bed.

F-150 SCREW 6.5' 4x4 5.0L - 3.73
HP = 385 @ 5750 (2017 data)
TORQ = 387 @ 3850 (2017 data)
CURB Wt = 4895 lbs
MAX Payload = 2660 lbs
GVWR = 7850 lbs
Max Tow = 10,800 lbs @ MAX GCWR 16,200 lbs
Front Axle = ???
Rear Axle = ???
Brake Rotor = ???


F-250 SCREW 6.75' 4x4 6.2L - 3.73
HP = 385 @ 5750 (2017 data)
TORQ = 430 @ 3800 (2017 data)
CURB Wt = 6478 lbs
MAX Payload = 3450 lbs
GVWR = 10000 lbs
Max Tow 3.73 = 12,600 lbs @ MAX GCWR 19,500 lbs
Max Tow 4.30 = 28,700 lbs @ MAX GCWR 28,700 lbs
Front Axle = 5990 lbs
Rear Axle = 6340 lbs
Brake Rotors = 14.29"


NOTE: I didn't see the axle or brake specks for the F150 so I didn't list them here. Expect significant differences in axle specs, brake specs, and tire specs. Although, I did read where the newer F150 brakes rotors are now larger and improved, but, I did not see a spec online. Surely, tires can be changed. My F150 axles are 3750 front and 3850 rear for comparison.

So........ there it is. Do you need the extra 1583 lbs of curb weight and the ability to safely tow above 11,000 lbs ..... then F-250 is for you.

If you want to lose 1583 pounds, gain some maneuverability, maybe some MPGs and don't really need to tow over 11,000...... then F-150 is for you.

Good luck!!!
 
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BTW ........ strictly speaking payload

There is a thread in the 2017 F250 forum with people posting payload stickers. Guys F250 CC 6.7L 4x4 delivered with a payload = 1991 lbs.

The payload stickers on F250 & F350 range from about 1900 lbs to over 5000 lbs depending on engine, configuration, etc.

It's highly possible that some F150 have higher payload #'s than some of the F250s being delivered.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rooftop
Raindesert I've read a lot of your posts and I think we have a lot in common for our daily needs in a truck. I have not decided what I am going to do yet. If I could get a superduty with an ecoboost it would be a no brainer. I need to sit down at the dealer and configure a hd f150 and see what I come up with. My problem is I always have a cap on and routinely put 1-2k in the bed and hook up a 6k trailer. Now this weight is not in there for along time and usually it's less than 20 miles from home so I think the 150 would work.

IMHO...your needs are leaning towards the F250. Keep in mind...that a f150 can do the work you mention, but long term could be a problem. The Superduty line was developed for this kind of continuous work.

Also, when speaking of MPG's...and towing...and payloads, etc. Then I think the F250 with 6.2L matches the f150 or even beats it. Again, the F250 was designed for this function.


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