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Old May 1, 2017 | 12:14 AM
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I'm looking through the list of U-joints on the rock auto page and trying to figure out which ones I need for the drive lines. Are the ujoints all the same or are there some that have the multi-size ujoints?

I'm trying to see what the different part numbers are in the table on the moog link and they are all over the place.

I have a standard cab 4wd 1987 F250. Each driveline has one u-joint at each end with no half-shafts.

Moog Universal Joints Chart | By Size | Moog
 
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Old May 1, 2017 | 01:16 AM
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When I did my 90 F250 all the joints were the same size, 1350's (Moog 232 greaseable), except the front driveshaft which where slightly different (Federal Mogul 265 Greasable.)
 
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Originally Posted by shorerider16
When I did my 90 F250 all the joints were the same size, 1350's (Moog 232 greaseable), except the front driveshaft which where slightly different (Federal Mogul 265 Greasable.)
Thank you, that gives me a place to start on mine.
 
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Old May 1, 2017 | 09:32 PM
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Your best bet may be to measure them all the see.

Things should be standardish... but if someone swapped a driveshaft or transfer case with another truck things maybe a little off. I know my '88 needs one of the multi-size joints at the rear differential due to the driveshaft being from a gas truck originally.
 
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Old May 2, 2017 | 08:36 AM
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Don't take this as gospel as I'm going off memory, but I think automatic trucks had 1330F joints at transfer case and rear axle positions and I believe front driveshaft as well. They be 1330Fx1330 with the regular 1330 part on the driveshaft itself. The idea being Ford wanted a thicker cap in Ubolt positions to help prevent deformation. The center joint on a two piece shaft would be a 1330.

Manual trucks 3/4 ton and 1 ton had 1350 joints for the rear shaft all positions, 1330 or 1330F on front shaft.
 
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Old May 4, 2017 | 11:09 PM
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I did my u-joints by myself one time and then a couple months later one exploded on the highway, soo, I'd get a shop to press new ones in. They will know the right sizes and stuff and if you get them to do it all BEFORE the driveshaft gets messed up you won't have to also pay for them to rebuild it and stuff.

I mean, this is just what I'd personally do. You might be doing this a better way than a 3/4" socket and hammer like I used haha
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SpencerS
I did my u-joints by myself one time and then a couple months later one exploded on the highway, soo, I'd get a shop to press new ones in. They will know the right sizes and stuff and if you get them to do it all BEFORE the driveshaft gets messed up you won't have to also pay for them to rebuild it and stuff.

I mean, this is just what I'd personally do. You might be doing this a better way than a 3/4" socket and hammer like I used haha
One tip: If you get a 'greasable' U-joint(aka one that has a zerk fitting), make sure to grease it up thoroughly after install and before running it.
The grease that's inside is both minimal and crummy, at best.

I use the socket and vice method sometimes, hammer works too but the vice is more 'precise'.

If you are using a hammer(or vice too), make sure to press/hammer the cap in place /with the cross pushed into it/. This keeps the little bearings from falling out of place.

Also, of course, make sure that things turn freely after install - I usually end up installing one cap, then the first c-clip then the other cap, then the other C-clip... and then hammer the /cross/ back towards the first cap, which usually buys a couple of thousanths of play end makes it move freely vs being 'jammed' in place.
 
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Old May 6, 2017 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SpencerS
I did my u-joints by myself one time and then a couple months later one exploded on the highway, soo, I'd get a shop to press new ones in. They will know the right sizes and stuff and if you get them to do it all BEFORE the driveshaft gets messed up you won't have to also pay for them to rebuild it and stuff.

I mean, this is just what I'd personally do. You might be doing this a better way than a 3/4" socket and hammer like I used haha

I did mine at home with a socket, vice and bessey clamp and they are still going strong several years and 80,000+ km later. Just be careful and ensure everything is moving properly once your done.


Grease, lot's of grease! I went with grease able joints and I grease them every oil change, a cheap way to make expensive stuff last way longer! I also hand packed all the joints while I was putting things together, which helps keep the rollers from falling out as well.
 
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Your best bet is to remove the old u-joints and measure the diameter of each cap and the width of each cross with the caps installed. There are some u-joints that have different size caps and different widths on the two crosses of a single u-joint. I know for a fact that some trucks of the same year model show 3 different possible u-joints in the catalog.
I know of one online driveline shop that will not sell you a u-joint based upon application. You must give them the dimensions of the u-joint you are replacing. Obviously they have had too many customers call and complain that their new u-joint doesn't fit after selling them one based on application.
 
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Old May 7, 2017 | 01:28 PM
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I'm going to remove the front driveshaft ones first and work on the rear drive shaft after that. I've replaced them on my own before, as was mentioned it's important to make sure they aren't binding after you replace them. Usually I use a ball joint press or a big hammer, but I may invest in a hydraulic press this time.

Thanks for the warning that the sizes are all over the place. I'm too used to jeeps that had been the same size for 10 years.
 
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Old May 7, 2017 | 03:08 PM
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I find for joints in driveshafts it's easier to either do the hammer and socket or sockets in a vise method. Too big to finagle a large item in the press and set up for something that comes out easy. I typically use the press for axle joints though, as unless they've been replaced recently they're really averse to leaving the position they've been in for 30+ years.
 
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