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Old May 16, 2017 | 10:11 PM
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You should be able to go to .060" over. But you can have the block sonic tested to ensure there enough meat to go that far.
 
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Old May 21, 2017 | 03:23 PM
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What ever block you choose check the align bore out real close with a good bore gauge. The condition of it might influence which one you use. If I change pistons I always rebalance it. Nothing special I can see with the heads.
 
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Old May 21, 2017 | 09:54 PM
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well im going to have it bored out to what the cylinder cleans up at, anything more i may end up sleeving depending on how much i have to take off to clean up the bore. no matter what i want to do this up right so it runs a long time. this is an amazing project, i just wish all the farm stuff didn't take up so much time.
 
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Old May 23, 2017 | 06:43 PM
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i just measured the rod bearings and they are only .001-.003 in spec, should i get some undersized bearings from tim? or go the standard size?
 
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Old May 23, 2017 | 10:42 PM
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If they are in spec, why grind it? I prefer my clearance a little on the wide side of spec for good oil flow, but that's just me.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 12:09 AM
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but when you look at it its only .001-.003 before its out of spec. so i'm not sure if i'm just over worried and overthinking it. i just don't want to destroy the fresh rebuild by having to little margin what would be considered in spec so i don't have to pull it all apart shortly after rebuilding it.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 02:20 AM
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When things are loose, you just a need a little thicker oil to get higher oil pressure. When things are tight and get hot, that's when you need to worry. Oil doesn't compress, so flow is better than pressure. As long as you have 10psi per 1k, your fine. just my 2cents tho. Others like to see high oil pressure numbers and I guess that's fine too.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by reebadoo
i just measured the rod bearings and they are only .001-.003 in spec, should i get some undersized bearings from tim? or go the standard size?
One of the reasons I've not commented until now is that I don't understand what you are saying. Are the rod bearing clearances ".001-.003", or are they ".001-.003 in spec"? And is each bearing showing .001 some place and .003 another, meaning they are out of round?

What you typed just doesn't make sense to me, so after I read it the first time I went on to help others whose posts I did understand. Then I came back, got confused again, and left again. And now I've come back again and still don't understand.

If you can help me understand what the situation is with a bit more of an explanation maybe I can offer an opinion.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
One of the reasons I've not commented until now is that I don't understand what you are saying. Are the rod bearing clearances ".001-.003", or are they ".001-.003 in spec"? And is each bearing showing .001 some place and .003 another, meaning they are out of round?

What you typed just doesn't make sense to me, so after I read it the first time I went on to help others whose posts I did understand. Then I came back, got confused again, and left again. And now I've come back again and still don't understand.

If you can help me understand what the situation is with a bit more of an explanation maybe I can offer an opinion.
If i remember correctly the spec for the connecting rod journal on the crank is 2.3111- 2.3107 my journals were all within the spec by .001- .003. so the first crank journal for the connecting rod was 2.3109. the second journal was 2.3108.

So what im trying to figure out is if i should get undersized bearings for the connecting rods or should i get standard. im just worried about how close to out of oem spec that the journals are. i would rather do it right than throw something together just to make it work.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kopfenjager
When things are loose, you just a need a little thicker oil to get higher oil pressure. When things are tight and get hot, that's when you need to worry. Oil doesn't compress, so flow is better than pressure. As long as you have 10psi per 1k, your fine. just my 2cents tho. Others like to see high oil pressure numbers and I guess that's fine too.
Thank you . i just want to build the engine so it will last as long as it can without pulling it apart. and i dont think the engine would like thick oil in negative temperatures ... hahaha
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by reebadoo
If i remember correctly the spec for the connecting rod journal on the crank is 2.3111- 2.3107 my journals were all within the spec by .001- .003. so the first crank journal for the connecting rod was 2.3109. the second journal was 2.3108.

So what im trying to figure out is if i should get undersized bearings for the connecting rods or should i get standard. im just worried about how close to out of oem spec that the journals are. i would rather do it right than throw something together just to make it work.
I think you mean they are in spec by .0001 - .0003. Right? All that says is your crank is the proper size. But we can't answer the question of what bearings to use without the info on the rods. What size are they?
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 11:48 AM
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if i recall they are 2.4365 +/- .0002.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 06:11 PM
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The rods are supposed to be 2.4361-2.4369, which is 2.4365 +/- .0004".
The crank throws are to be 2.3103 - 2.3111, which is 2.3107 +/- .0004".
The desired bearing clearance is .0008-.0015"
The allowable bearing clearance is .0008-.0025"

I think you quoted what the rods are supposed to be rather than what yours are. So my advice is to find out what yours are, and get bearings that bring the clearance within spec.
 
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Old May 24, 2017 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
The rods are supposed to be 2.4361-2.4369, which is 2.4365 +/- .0004".
The crank throws are to be 2.3103 - 2.3111, which is 2.3107 +/- .0004".
The desired bearing clearance is .0008-.0015"
The allowable bearing clearance is .0008-.0025"

I think you quoted what the rods are supposed to be rather than what yours are. So my advice is to find out what yours are, and get bearings that bring the clearance within spec.
alright, should i torque them down and measure then or will finger tight work for the measurement? next time i get to the shop i will measure the rods
 
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Old May 25, 2017 | 06:53 AM
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To get accurate measurements you need to torque them down.
 
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